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- Revelation: The Time Is At Hand - XXXVII [1 Update]
http://groups.google.com/group/heavensoon/t/ae0125f5c9b9fab7
- Iran propositions Saudis, seeks anti-US pact, offers nuclear
cooperation [1 Update]
http://groups.google.com/group/heavensoon/t/6d0bbd0842cbaf17
- Salon Article Compares Evangelicals To Radical Islam As National
Security Threat [1 Update]
http://groups.google.com/group/heavensoon/t/e8f13d190170e59f
- Issa: Piracy Bill Would Give Holder 'Broad New Powers To Police
The Internet' [1 Update]
http://groups.google.com/group/heavensoon/t/4210c1558c232457
- White House Allegedly Behind Bill Allowing Military To Arrest And
Detain American Citizens Indefinitely [1 Update]
http://groups.google.com/group/heavensoon/t/5cae1b964a3f4f72
- But Americans Fear Big Government Over Everything Else, Called
"Biggest Threat To Country" [1 Update]
http://groups.google.com/group/heavensoon/t/e248772e7f0d0189
- And Where Is Peter Goodgame When You Need Him? Discovery News Says
A Big Question May Be Answered In 2012 Behind The Great Pyramid's
Secret Doors [1 Update]
http://groups.google.com/group/heavensoon/t/1784ae20aa64a676
- The Isaiah 9:10 prophecy: Is U.S. under God's judgment? [1 Update]
http://groups.google.com/group/heavensoon/t/9947218682898a59
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Topic: Revelation: The Time Is At Hand - XXXVII
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From: Heaven soon <heavensoon@gmail.com>
Date: Dec 14 07:22PM -0500
Url: http://groups.google.com/group/heavensoon/msg/e4139b29821849ee
Revelation: The Time Is At Hand - XXXVII
By Kevin E. Johnson - December 13, 2011
There are seven major events of end-time prophecy, all of which are
covered in the book of Revelation. In chapter 1 we see the resurrected,
glorified Christ standing in the midst of the seven churches, typified by
seven golden candlesticks. In his right are seven stars, which typify the
angels or Pastors of the seven churches. Chapters 2 and 3 deal with the
seven churches. While there were more than seven churches in the Roman
province of Asia Minor in John's day; the seven that were selected by the
Holy Spirit, while certainly actual congregations with very real issues and
needs, represent seven distinct periods of Church history; commencing with
Ephesus the Apostolic Church, and concluding with Laodicea the Lukewarm,
self-absorbed Church. This church represents the final church that will be
on the earth just prior to the return of Jesus in the clouds to catch away
His people.
In Chapter 4, "after these things" that concern the Church Age John sees a
"door", Thura in the Greek, indicative of a literal door, gate, or opening.
Strong's also suggests "portal" as a possible rendering of the word. I
believe that is exactly what John saw. He saw an opening in the dimensional
barrier that separates the natural from the spiritual realm. John goes
through this opening and is transported in the Spirit into the very Throne
Room of God. Fromchapter 4 all the way through to chapter 19, the Church is
not referenced as being on the earth, but rather in Heaven, typified by the
24 Elders. In chapter 6we see the rise of the Antichrist, typified by the
"rider on a white horse". We see the beginning of the Tribulation period
here, lasting some seven years in duration.
The "Man of sin's" reign of terror will be brought to an end at the
glorious appearing of Christ, which is covered in the chapter before us
today. I refer of course to chapter 19. As this chapter opens, the voices
of Heaven become one chorus. John writes, And after these things I heard a
great voice of much people in heaven, saying, Alleluia; Salvation, and
glory, and honour, and power, unto the Lord our God: [Rev. 19:1] "After
these things", again is the Greek phrase, meta tauta. We first ran into
this phrase back in 1:19 where John gave us the three-fold division of the
book. You could literally translate it, "The things that shall be after
these things." After what things? After the Church things. Chapter 4 opened
with this phrase, and we have been in the "after these things" mode ever
since. There is a certain chronological progression in much of this, a
sequence of events, if you will. Now we will see what will take place after
the Great Tribulation. It is recorded in this chapter: The Second Coming of
Christ. He is the only one who can bring an end to the Great Tribulation.
Therefore this is the final occurrence of meta tauta in scripture.
Revelation 19 serves as a bridge between the Great Tribulation and the
Kingdom Age. We see four occurrences of the word, Alleluia in this chapter.
Interestingly, it does not occur anywhere else in the entire New Testament.
It is quite prominent in the great hymn book of Israel, the book of Psalms.
In fact, out of 150 Psalms, 15 either open or close with the word. The
Alleluias let us know there is great joy in Heaven, while great anguish on
the earth. While the world is reeling from the various plagues they have
endured for the past seven years, and reeling from the judgment on the
Great Whore of Babylon, and the destruction of the city of Babylon, there
is rejoicing in Heaven due to the fact that the King of kings and Lord of
lords is about to mount a white Horse of victory and return to the earth to
destroy His enemies are incarcerate the Beast and False Prophet, along with
every foul evil spirit and consign them to the bottomless pit for the
1,000-year Kingdom Age. Indeed, there is great joy in Heaven! This chapter
reveals five reasons for Heaven's joy.
1. FULL SALVATION HAS COME: (19:1)
Again, the phrase After these things appearing here, as it does in every
occurrence in the book; alerts us to a new vision. This vision occurs in
between the judgment of the Babylons (17, 18) and the glorious appearing of
Jesus Christ (19:11 – 21 to set up the Millennial Kingdom (20:1 – 10). This
united chorus of voices, although we are not told, probably belong to
angels and not the redeemed who lend their voices a bit later. [5 – 8] The
untold millions of angels make for a majestic chorus. Their song begins
with, again, Alleluia! This Greek word is a transliteration of a Hebrew
phrase combining the verb for "to praise" and the noun "God." It appears in
the New Testament, as we noted earlier, only in this chapter (verses 3, 4,
6)
Interestingly,in its first appearance in the Old Testament, alleluia also
expresses praise for God's judgment on the wicked oppressors of His people.
[See Ps. 104:35] In the Greek the angel's song doesn't begin with ascribing
salvation to God as it does in the English translation. It rather affirms
the fact: "The salvation is God's." It really is the echo of the ancient
utterance, "Salvation belongs unto God." This lets each of us know for all
time that this great salvation we have received is none of man and all of
God. This means all three phases of salvation. Three phases? Yes, we
receive our salvation in three phases, and they are all the work of God
received by faith. The great Apostle wrote, For by grace are ye saved
through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: Not of
works, lest any man should boast. [Eph. 2:8, 9] Now, I must admit, for some
reason for years I read this verse and didn't catch the depth of what Paul
by inspiration of the Holy Spirit was conveying to us. Please note the
word, saved here. It is the Greek, sozo, and is the all-inclusive word of
the gospel. It appears in various forms some 120 times in the New
Testament. 53 times it is translated, saved. It is, save, 41 times. It is
also translated as, whole (11 times), healed (3 times), preserve (1 time),
and well (1 time).
C.I. Scofield, editor of the great Scofield Reference Bible, on commenting
on this word saved wrote, "The Hebrew, and (Greek, "so-te-ria", meaning
"safety", "preservation", "healing", and "soundness"). Salvation is the
great inclusive word of the Gospel, gathering into itself all the
redemptive acts and processes: as justification, redemption, grace,
propitiation, imputation, forgiveness, sanctification, and glorification."
[Scofield Reference Bible, comment onRomans 1:16] So, when we speak of
salvation, we are speaking of everything Jesus purchased for us at Calvary.
Every aspect and process of it is received or appropriated by faith. We
receive justification, the first phase of salvation (although technically
we must be sanctified, made clean first, before we can be declared clean)
by faith. We receive sanctification, the process of salvation that begins
upon believing faith and continues until death or the Trump sounds where we
live for God and are being conformed to the image of Christ. We will at the
resurrection (rapture) receive glorification, where this mortal will put on
immortality, where corruption will put on incorruption and we will have a
body fashioned after His glorious body. Every part of the salvation package
is received by faith. It is entirely the work of God, none of us. It is
fitting then that this angel chorus of praise and worship begins with
salvation. There is praise ascending because of the final glorification of
the saints entering the Kingdom Age. Full salvation will have come!
2. JUSTICE IS PROVIDED: (19:2)
For true and righteous are his judgments: for he hath judged the great
whore, which did corrupt the earth with her fornication, and hath avenged
the blood of his servants at her hand. [Rev. 19:2] I find it interesting
that at the end of these judgments, those in Heaven, who have more perfect
knowledge than you and I have, are able to say that God's judgments are
true and right. If you don't think that what God is doing is right, it is
you who are wrong and not God. There is no person who will ever stand
before a thrice Holy God and be able to say that He is anything other than
true and right and absolutely just in all that He does. Perfect justice
will be provided at the Coming of Christ to rule and to reign.
3. REBELLION IS ENDED: (19:3)
And again they said, Alleluia. And her smoke rose up for ever and
ever.[19:3] The judgment on Babylon provoked the first outburst of heavenly
rejoicing. The aftermath of her destruction prompts the heavenly chorus to
again say, alleluia! They are rejoicing because this judgment is eternal
and irrevocable. The cry of Revelation 6:10 is answered here in the blood
of the martyrs being avenged. From this time on sin and sinners, Satan and
his evil spirits and demon spirits will never again be able to exert
authority. They are forever done, and Jesus' victory at the Cross made it
all possible. The language concerning the judgment ofBabylon is similar to
that used of the destruction of Sodom andGomorrah [Gen. 19:28], and Edom
[Isa. 34:10]
The destruction of the last and most powerful Empire in human history marks
the end of human rule. The rebellion that began in the Garden of Eden is
finally ended (with the exception of the revolt at the end of the
Millennium Revelation 20:7 – 10). There will be no more false religion or
injustice.
4. GOD IS IN CONTROL: (19:4 – 6)
And the four and twenty elders and the four beasts fell down and worshipped
God that sat on the throne, saying, Amen; Alleluia. And a voice came out of
the throne, saying, Praise our God, all ye his servants, and ye that fear
him, both small and great. And I heard as it were the voice of a great
multitude, and as the voice of many waters, and as the voice of mighty
thunderings, saying, Alleluia: for the Lord God omnipotent reigneth. [19:4
– 6]
At this point the redeemed in Heaven lend their voices to this heavenly
chorus. The twenty-four elders are best understood as representatives of
the Church in Heaven. "Beasts" is an unfortunate translation here (although
it is not incorrect.; it gives a connotation which may be misunderstood by
some), "Living creatures" or, "living ones" I submit would be more
accurate. These, Zoon in the Greek, seem to be a special angelic order
separate from Cherubim or Seraphim, although some refer to them as high
ranking Cherubim. Here they are prostrate before the Throne of God in
worship to the Most High God, lending their voices to the growing crescendo.
Notice that the call to praise God comes directly out of the Throne. It is
an unidentified voice, but it seems improbable that this would be the voice
of the Father or the Lord Jesus Christ, unless of course Christ is
identifying Himself with His Church and is referring to the Father as His
God and hers. It seems more likely that the voice may belong to one of the
24 Elders and the voice is coming from the throne nearest the Throne of
God, as the elders are situated around the Throne. At any rate, this mighty
anthem of praise, the true "Hallelujah Chorus" in Heaven, is lifted up
because the Lord Jesus is preparing to take back control of the world. What
a day that will be! This takes us all the way back to the Covenant that God
made with David in which He promised to raise one upon David's throne who
would rule the world. In 2 Samuel 7:16 we read, And thine house and thy
kingdom shall be established for ever before thee: thy throne shall be
established for ever.
It is certain before Christ Returns to this earth there is going to be a
wedding, and you and I are a part of it! That should be a cause of
rejoicing among all of the redeemed. Those in Heaven are rejoicing. I
suggest we join them!
5. THE MARRIAGE OF THE LAMB IS COMPLETED: (19:7 – 10)
Let us be glad and rejoice, and give honour to him: for the marriage of the
Lamb is come, and his wife hath made herself ready. And to her was granted
that she should be arrayed in fine linen, clean and white: for the fine
linen is the righteousness of saints. And he saith unto me, Write, Blessed
are they which are called unto the marriage supper of the Lamb. And he
saith unto me, These are the true sayings of God. And I fell at his feet to
worship him. And he said unto me, See thou do it not: I am thy
fellowservant, and of thy brethren that have the testimony of Jesus:
worship God: for the testimony of Jesus is the spirit of prophecy. [19:7 –
10]
This will be the most thrilling experience the believer will ever have.
Think of it, the whole body of believers, from Pentecost to the rapture,
will at this time be presented to Christ as a bride for marriage. My dear
brethren who teach that the Church will go through the Great Tribulation,
and that believers rising to meet the Lord in the air referred to by Paul
in 1 Thessalonians 4:16, 17 are just going out to meet the Lord and then
immediately return with Him to earth; totally miss the imagery of the
Jewish Wedding employed throughout prophecy. The entire process was a
picture of Christ and the Church. The preparation process surrounding
ancient wedding practices was even more elaborate and involved than ours in
Western culture. The Jewish wedding consisted of three distinct phases that
I believe are each important to understand for the believer. 1) –
Betrothal: This was a contract negotiated by both sets of parents and was
legally binding. It could only be broken by the issuing of a bill of
divorce. [SeeMatt. 1:18, 19] 2) – Presentation: This was a time of
festivities right before the actual ceremony. It could last a week or more,
depending on the social and economic standing of the bride and groom. 3) –
Ceremony: This third and final stage is obviously the most significant of
all. Here of course the vows are exchanged. At the end of the presentation
festivities, the groom and his attendants would go to the bride's house and
take her and the bridesmaids to the ceremony. After the ceremony would come
a final meal, followed by the consummation of the marriage.
All of the heavenly chorus is encouraged to rejoice and be glad and give
glory to Him because all of the preparation is complete and the Marriage of
the Lamb has come. We were betrothed in eternity past, presented in the
Father's House since the rapture, and now the Church is ready for the
wedding ceremony to begin. This will coincide with the beginning of the
Kingdom Age and stretch throughout that thousand-year period, finally
consummated in the new heavens and new earth, the bride concept will be
expanded to include not only the Church, but also all of the redeemed of
all ages as the New Jerusalem becomes the bridal city [See 21:1, 2].
In preparation for the wedding, his wife hath made herself ready. This has
not been done by self effort or through the keeping of laws however. The
bride has made herself ready in the power of God, by the grace of God,
through the work of the Spirit of God [See Phil. 2:12, 13; Col. 1:29]. Now
purged from all sin and impurity [1 Cor. 3:12 – 15], she is a flawless,
blameless virgin. Having been presented glorified and spotless before God's
Throne the Church is able tobe arrayed in fine linen, clean and white. This
is expensive and beautiful cloth, like that worn by Joseph [See Gen.
41:42]. "White" here in the KJV might be rendered as "bright" as the NKJV,
NASB, YLT, and ESV have it. The Greek is, lampros, and means "radiant,
shining, brilliant, bright, clear, splendid, and magnificent." These
dazzling garments were worn earlier by angels [See 15:6], and
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Topic: Iran propositions Saudis, seeks anti-US pact, offers nuclear cooperation
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From: Heaven soon <heavensoon@gmail.com>
Date: Dec 14 07:17PM -0500
Url: http://groups.google.com/group/heavensoon/msg/11d89866c8d33c5a
Iran propositions Saudis, seeks anti-US pact, offers nuclear cooperation
DEBKA*file* Exclusive Report December 14, 2011, 12:22 PM (GMT+02:00)
Tags: Iran nuclear <http://www.debka.com/search/tag/Iran%20nuclear/> Saudi
Arabia <http://www.debka.com/search/tag/Saudi%20Arabia/> RQ-170
drone<http://www.debka.com/search/tag/RQ-170%20drone/>
Syria <http://www.debka.com/search/tag/Syria/>
US<http://www.debka.com/search/tag/US/>
Saudi Crown Prince Nayef receives Iran's Heidar Moslehi
A large Iranian delegation led by Intelligence Minister Heidar Moslehi
visited Riyadh Monday, Dec. 12 and put a proposition before Crown Prince
Nayef bin Abdulaziz: Why not bury the Saudi royal house's historic feud
with the ayatollahs of Tehran and form an anti-US and anti-Zionist pact for
leading the Middle East? The Iranians boasted that after the seizure of
America's top secret drone technology by a successful cyber attack they
must now be accepted as the superpower of the region.
Prince Nayef agreed to receive the delegation following a request from the
office of Iran's Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei. Moslehi is one of
his closest advisers and a leading antagonist of President Mahmoud
Ahmadinejad who was not told about the visit.
debkafile's Iranian sources report that the Iranians pushed hard for a
partnership with the Saudis on such issues as oil, Iraqi, Syria,
Afghanistan, Lebanon and Yemen, on most of which Tehran and Riyadh are in
direct collision. Saudi Arabia spearheads the Persian Gulf emirates'
campaign to establish a bloc of Sunni Arab kings and rulers to fight off
Iranian expansion and the influence of the Shiite Hizballah and Syria.
The visitors to Riyadh pointed out that a Saudi-Iranian axis in the region
would be strong enough to freeze out American and Turkish meddling in the
Arab Revolt. It would draw its strength from the combination of Iranian
military, intelligence and nuclear capabilities on the one hand and Saudi
power and wealth on the other. For the sake of this pact, Moslehi said,
Tehran was willing to share its nuclear program with Riyadh.
The Moslehi delegation represented high-ranking Iranian military and
intelligence chiefs, while Prince Nayef was attended by the heads of Saudi
intelligence services, including Director of General Intelligence Prince
Muqrin bin Abdul Aziz.
The two figures conspicuously absent were the top men orchestrating the
Arab Revolt and Iraq from opposite sides of the table: Saudi National
Security Adviser Prince Bandar bin Sultan and commander of the Iranian Al
Qods Brigades, Gen. Qassem Soleimani.
Bandar heads the apparatus funneling weapons, money and fighters to the
Syrian opposition fighting President Bashar Assad, Tehran's senior ally,
while Soleimani leads the counter-campaign for keeping the Assad regime
extant.
Nevertheless, the Iranian visitor is reported by debkafile's sources as
explaining to his Saudi hosts that an understanding between them had been
reached before and could be reached again. He referred to the May 2008
agreement on Lebanon known as the "Doha Accord," under which Iran, the
Persian Gulf states and Syria agreed that the Lebanese crisis would end
without winners and losers but with a power-sharing arrangement granting
representation to all the country's adversarial forces, including Hizballah.
Tehran saw no reason why the same principle could not be applied to the
Syrian crisis. The bloodshed and the horrors of civil war could be saved by
bringing the opposition factions into the Damascus government.
In return for these understandings, Moslehi proposed an Iranian-Saudi deal
for the future of Iraq following the American withdrawal. Iran, he said,
was willing to guarantee the rights of Iraq's Sunni community and their
participation in Nouri al-Maliki's government in Baghdad.
Turning to the nuclear issue, debkafile's military sources report the
Iranian intelligence minister maintained that Tehran and Riyadh needn't be
rivals or develop separate nuclear programs, as proposed last week by Saudi
Arabia's former intelligence chief, Prince Turki al-Faisal. Turki said that
if Iran continued with its weapons of mass destruction program, the Persian
Gulf states (including Saudi Arabia) would have no choice but to develop
their own. Tehran, said Moslehi, was ready to open up its nuclear program,
like its space program, to Saudi participation.
Our sources report that Crown Prince Nayef promised to bring the Iranian
proposals before the king and senior princes and have an answer ready soon.
But Riyadh was ready sooner than expected with a response. Before even
addressing their overture, Nayef acted to take the Iranians down a peg or
two from their self-appointed military and intelligence superpower status.
In a broadcast Tuesday, the day after the Iranian visit, the Saudi
television network Al Arabiya attributed the explosion at the Moadarress
Iranian missile base in the Malard region west of Tehran on Saturday,
December 10, to an assassination plot against Ayatollah Khamenei (which was
first reported by DEBKA-Net-Weekly 519 on Dec. 2).
Khamenei's son Mojtaba and senior Revolutionary Guard officers were
described in the broadcast as having been detained and questioned in
connection with the plot.
This TV item informed Tehran exactly how high the Saudis rate Iran's
regional standing and the stability of its government.
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Topic: Salon Article Compares Evangelicals To Radical Islam As
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Date: Dec 14 07:16PM -0500
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*Salon Article Compares Evangelicals To Radical Islam As National Security
Threat
*<http://www.salon.com/2011/11/29/are_evangelicals_a_national_security_threat/print/>American
Christians are more likely than their Western European counterparts to
think of themselves first in terms of their religion rather than their
nationality; 46 percent of Christians in the U.S. see themselves primarily
as Christians and the same number consider themselves Americans first. In
contrast, majorities of Christians in France (90 percent), Germany (70
percent), Britain (63 percent) and Spain (53 percent) identify primarily
with their nationality rather than their religion. Among Christians in the
U.S., white evangelicals are especially inclined to identify first with
their faith; 70 percent in this group see themselves first as Christians
rather than as Americans, while 22 percent say they are primarily American.
If, as Islamophobes argue, refusing to assimilate is defined as expressing
loyalty to a religion before loyalty to country, then this data suggests it
is evangelical Christians who are very resistant to assimilation.
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Topic: Issa: Piracy Bill Would Give Holder 'Broad New Powers To Police
The Internet'
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Date: Dec 14 07:15PM -0500
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*Issa: Piracy Bill Would Give Holder 'Broad New Powers To Police The
Internet'
*<http://dailycaller.com/2011/12/13/issa-piracy-bill-would-give-holder-broad-new-powers-to-police-the-internet/>In
a statement released Tuesday, House oversight committee Chairman Darrell
Issa criticized an amendment proposed by Texas Republican Rep. Lamar Smith
to the controversial Stop Online Piracy Act, saying it does not fix
anything and would give "Attorney General Eric Holder's Department of
Justice broad new powers to police the Internet." SOPA, which is Smith's
bill, would place authority over websites that facilitate copyright
infringement under Justice Department jurisdiction. The bill — heavily
criticized by politicians, social networking sites and political advocacy
groups for its "broad reach" — is expected to see full committee markup
before Smith's House Judiciary Committee Thursday.
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Topic: White House Allegedly Behind Bill Allowing Military To Arrest
And Detain American Citizens Indefinitely
Url: http://groups.google.com/group/heavensoon/t/5cae1b964a3f4f72
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Date: Dec 14 07:14PM -0500
Url: http://groups.google.com/group/heavensoon/msg/e85975b73e9b61f2
*White House Allegedly Behind Bill Allowing Military To Arrest And Detain
American Citizens Indefinitely
* <http://blog.buzzflash.com/node/13201>Is President Obama really likely to
veto a Senate bill that passed the Senate that allows for the military to
indefinitely detain Americans? Not likely. According to Sen. Carl Levin -
chair of the Senate Armed Services Committee - who headed Democratic Party
negotiations on the National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year
2012, it was the White House that insisted on the military having the
option - instead of police or federal law enforcement - to detain American
citizens considered "belligerent" to the security of the nation. Glenn
Greenwald points this out in a commentary that includes a videotape of
Senator Levin making the claim about White House culpability in the
phrasing.
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Topic: But Americans Fear Big Government Over Everything Else, Called
"Biggest Threat To Country"
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Date: Dec 14 07:14PM -0500
Url: http://groups.google.com/group/heavensoon/msg/e15590ff811fab6a
*But Americans Fear Big Government Over Everything Else, Called "Biggest
Threat To Country"
* <http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1211/70318.html>Americans' fear of
big government – partly fueled by a sharp spike among Democrats since
President Barack Obama took office – almost reached a record high this year
and is far greater than people's concerns about big business and big labor,
a new Gallup poll Monday shows. An overwhelming 64 percent of people
surveyed said big government was the biggest threat to the country,
compared to just 26 percent who said big business is their gravest concern
and 8 percent who picked big labor. The all-time high for percentage of
people who said big government was the biggest threat to the country was in
1999 and 2000, when 65 percent named it the country's biggest menace.
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Topic: And Where Is Peter Goodgame When You Need Him? Discovery News
Says A Big Question May Be Answered In 2012 Behind The Great Pyramid's
Secret Doors
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Date: Dec 14 07:13PM -0500
Url: http://groups.google.com/group/heavensoon/msg/b56c150eb1a1fca8
*And Where Is Peter Goodgame When You Need Him? Discovery News Says A Big
Question May Be Answered In 2012 Behind The Great Pyramid's Secret
Doors<http://news.discovery.com/history/great-pyramid-secret-door-mystery-111209.html>
*
Will the mystery over the Great Pyramid's secret doors be solved in 2012? I
dare say yes. After almost two decades of failed attempts, chances are now
strong that researchers will reveal next year what lies behind the secret
doors at the heart of Egypt's most magnificent pyramid. New revelations on
the enduring mystery were already expected this year, following a robot
exploration of the 4,500-year-old pharaonic mausoleum. But unrest in Egypt
froze the project at its most promising stage, after it produced the first
ever images behind one of the Great Pyramid's mysterious doors. Now the
Supreme Council of Antiquities (SCA), once led by the controversial yet
charismatic Zahi Hawass, is slowly returning to granting permits for
excavations and archaeological research
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From: Heaven soon <heavensoon@gmail.com>
Date: Dec 14 07:12PM -0500
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The Isaiah 9:10 prophecy: Is U.S. under God's judgment?
Messianic rabbi reveals striking parallels between fall of ancient Israel,
America
Posted: December 13, 2011
8:26 pm Eastern
© 2011 WND
WASHINGTON – A messianic rabbi from New Jersey is stunning audiences
nationwide by revealing the striking parallels between the fall of ancient
Israel and what he suggests are God's early judgments of America.
Jonathan Cahn of the Jerusalem Center-Beth Israel Congregation in Wayne,
N.J., says an otherwise obscure passage in the Book of Isaiah is since
Sept. 11, 2001, being uncannily re-enacted in the U.S. just the way it
originally played out in the time of the great prophet of Israel leading to
the nation's captivity and dispersions.
In a new book, "The Harbinger," Cahn reveals what he calls "an ancient
mystery that holds the secret of America's future and the collapse of the
global economy."
Read "The Harbinger: The Ancient Mystery That Holds the Secret of America's
Future" for yourself!
"Before its destruction as a nation, ancient Israel received nine
harbingers, prophetic omens of warning," he says. "The same nine harbingers
are now manifesting in America with immediate ramifications for end-time
prophecy."
The key to decoding the harbingers, he says, is found in understanding the
seemingly innocuous words of Isaiah 9:10 (King James Version), what it
meant to Israel and how the history seems to be repeating itself in America
today.
"The bricks are fallen down, but we will build with hewn stones: the
sycomores are cut down, but we will change them into cedars."
These words were first uttered by leaders in Israel and in response to a
limited strike by Assyria on the lands of Zebulun and Naphtali – an attack
the prophet makes clear is actually part of a limited judgment by God
against apostasy. It wasn't meant to destroy the nation, but to awaken it,
according to most commentaries.
But, says Cahn, Israel didn't take the cue. Instead, the response from the
people in Isaiah 9:10 is one of defiance. The brick buildings were toppled,
but they vowed to build bigger and better. The little sycamore trees may
have been uprooted, but they vowed to plant bigger and better cedars in
their place.
God, speaking through Isaiah, explains what will happen as a result of
their pride and arrogance and failure to heed the harbinger: Bigger and
more potent attacks will follow. Because neither the northern kingdom of
Israel nor the southern kingdom of Judah truly repents, the first is
eventually swept away by Assyrian invaders and the latter is carried off
into captivity by the Babylonians for 70 years.
But what does this have to do with the United States of America –
particularly what the U.S. experienced on 9/11 and since? Cahn has found
some eerie parallels.
"In the aftermath of the attack, the nation was stunned," said Cahn,
"Everyone was trying to make sense of what had happened – this
unprecedented attack on America. The very next day, September 12, then
Senate Majority Leader Tom Daschle presented America's response to the
world. And what did he say?"
Daschle said: "America will emerge from this tragedy as we have emerged
from all adversity – united and strong. Nothing … nothing can replace the
losses of those who have suffered. I know there is only the smallest
measure of inspiration that can be taken from this devastation. But there
is a passage in the Bible from Isaiah that speaks to all of us at times
like this."
He then went on to read Isaiah 9:10:
"Daschle has no idea what he is doing here," explains Cahn. "He thinks he's
offering comforting words to a grief-stricken people, but he is actually
embracing the spiritually defiant and arrogant words of the children of
Israel, proclaiming the ancient and ominous vow of the leaders of that
nation. He doesn't realize it, but he is actually inviting more judgment on
the nation."
It might be of some significance that Daschle, one of the most powerful men
in the nation when he spoke those words, later fell into disgrace – to the
point where he couldn't even serve in Barack Obama's Cabinet.
That might have been the end of the story – if no other top leader in the
nation uttered those strange and obscure words after 9/11. But that's not
the case.
On the third anniversary of the attack, Sept. 11, 2004, another powerful
U.S. senator running for vice president that year and who would famously
run for the presidency four years later, gave a speech to the Congressional
Black Caucus.
This time, John Edwards' entire speech was built on a foundation of Isaiah
9:10: "Today, on this day of remembrance and mourning, we have the Lord's
Word to get us through," he said. He then read Isaiah 9:10. He went on to
talk about how America was doing just that – rebuilding with hewn stone and
planting cedars:
"Like Daschle, Edwards thinks he's invoking inspirational and comforting
words from the Bible, but he's actually inviting judgment on America," says
Cahn. "He's repeating the vow that provoked God to bring calamity on
ancient Israel."
Daschle and Edwards were hardly alone among U.S. leaders in making similar
statements, as Cahn's "The Harbinger" reveals.
But aside from such statements, which could be chalked up to political talk
and coincidences, is there anything else linking Isaiah 9:10 to 9/11?
The book is full of shocking parallels. There was actually a very famous
sycamore tree felled in the attack on the World Trade Center. It was
replaced by trees in the same genus as the cedar. There have been many
plans made to rebuild the twin towers bigger and better and a large "hewn
stone" was actually quarried out of the Adirondack Mountains in New York
and brought to Ground Zero as a cornerstone.
"The parallels are truly stunning," says Joseph Farah, founder of WND, who
is producing a video documentary about Cahn's findings. "They are too
numerous and too powerful to relate in news story form. In fact, they are
overwhelming in their number and their exactitude. I am persuaded God is
trying to tell America something and Rabbi Cahn has found the key to
unlocking the message."
Farah says events continue to unfold that seem to link directly to the
message of Isaiah 9:10 right here in the United States.
Get Rabbi Jonathan Cahn's "The Harbinger: The Ancient Mystery That Holds
the Secret of America's Future."
Read more: The Isaiah 9:10 prophecy: Is U.S. under God's judgment?
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