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- [granthraj] Gurudev Nectar on Chaturshloki Bhagavatam - Part 1 [1 Update]
http://groups.google.com/group/learn-bhagavad-gita-asitis/t/367250d886a788d0
- Jhulan day pic [2 Updates]
http://groups.google.com/group/learn-bhagavad-gita-asitis/t/15a461746fb06498
- Light of the Bhagavata. [1 Update]
http://groups.google.com/group/learn-bhagavad-gita-asitis/t/96179682dc0ebbe9
- [granthraj] How to Attain Transcendental Love for Krishna ? - Part
4 [1 Update]
http://groups.google.com/group/learn-bhagavad-gita-asitis/t/535d8f10b8def453
- hare krishna [1 Update]
http://groups.google.com/group/learn-bhagavad-gita-asitis/t/c6dc716a9001a7c1
- Why is it good for a devotee to depend on Krishna's mercy [1 Update]
http://groups.google.com/group/learn-bhagavad-gita-asitis/t/66d9f172386cc796
- Srila Sanatana Gosvami [1 Update]
http://groups.google.com/group/learn-bhagavad-gita-asitis/t/1d188aeb451ee6cf
- They take different positions. [1 Update]
http://groups.google.com/group/learn-bhagavad-gita-asitis/t/10ad8028f135d0a8


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Topic: [granthraj] Gurudev Nectar on Chaturshloki Bhagavatam - Part 1
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From: "Dr Satish Gosain (Sri Krishna Hari Das)" <sri.krishna.hari@gmail.com>
Date: Aug 16 09:18AM +0530
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Date: Sat, Jul 31, 2010 at 10:06 PM
Subject: [granthraj] Gurudev Nectar on Chaturshloki Bhagavatam - Part 1
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Hare Krishna Prabhujis and Mathajis,

Please accept my humble obeisances. All glories to His Divine Grace Srila
Prabhupada and Srila Gurudeva.

Today I was listening to a Bhagavatam class given by our beloved spiritual
master HDG Mahavishnu Goswami Maharaj in Malaysia on 19th March 1992 in
Kaula Lumpur Malaysia.

Maharaj relished singing the first seed verse of Bhagavatam - verse 2.9.33
and requested everyone to repeat after the verse, word-to-word equivalents
and the translation after him.

*aham evaasam evaagre / naanyad yat sad-asat param
pashcaad aham yad etac ca / yo 'vashishyeta so 'smy aham*

*Brahma, it is I, the Personality of Godhead, who was existing before the
creation, when there was nothing but Myself. Nor was there the material
nature, the cause of this creation. That which you see now is also I, the
Personality of Godhead, and after annihilation what remains will also be I,
the Personality of Godhead.*

'This verse proves the first verse of Brahma samhita - *'ishavrah paramah
krsna - saccidaananda vigraha anaadir aadi govinda sarva kaarana kaaranam*".
Lord clearly states here that before the creation, there was nothing else
other than Him. With this creation, He is there and after annihilation of
this creation again He will be there. That is why He is known as "Supreme
transcendental". He has nothing to do with creation and annihiliation of
these material universes. He is the cause. No doubt. But even then He is
transcendental. He transcends these creations and annihilations. Because He
transcends, He is known as transcendental. A very nice good example can be
given. If we are driving on road, we have to follow the traffic rules -
green means go - red means stop, we have to walk/drive on left side or right
side of the road. We have to follow because we are on the ground. We are
driving on the ground. So we are bound by the laws of the ground. But for
aeroplane, these rules don't matter. No matter the aeroplane is flying over
the city, but it doesn't stop near the traffic lights. It desn't have to do.
Why ? It is because, it transcends the laws of the road. It is flying in the
sky. So its not bound by road-rules. This is the position of the Lord. Lord
is never bound by the laws of material natures. He is transcendental. These
laws don't bind Him at all. We people who are on the ground here are bound
by these material laws. This is the difference between our existence and His
position. And because He transcends, He has nothing to do with creation or
annihiliation. Whether it is created or not, He is still there. From this
verse, all verses glorifying the Lord emanate. That is the beauty of the
seed verses. And with this the purport is beautiful by His Divine Grace
Srila Prabhupada. So many Puranas and Upanishad verses, he has quoted.
Please somehow find time and go through these 4 verses. Now lets read the
second seed verse - 2.9.34

*rte 'rtham yat prateeyeta / na prateeyeta caatmani
tad vidyaad aatmano maayaam / yathaabhaaso yathaa tamah*
**
*O Brahma, whatever appears to be of any value, if it is without relation to
Me, has no reality. Know it as My illusory energy, that reflection which
appears to be in darkness.*

The second verse in chaturshloki Bhagavatam ios very important. Please
repeat after me. (Gurudev recites the verse again). In repeating, the
Sanskrit words, we must have devotion. Don't repeat mechanically. (Gurudev
continues with recitation of word-to-word and translation and devotees
repeat after him). This clearly indicates that anything without relation of
Lord is completely null and void. Our life also, if it is without the Lord,
then it is useless. *mogham paartha sa jivati*. It is very nicely described
in Srimad Bhagavatam,
*evam pravrttitam cakram / na anuvartayati iha yah *
*aghaayu indriyaaramo / mogham paartha sa jivati*

Beautiful verse. *evam* means - like this. *pravarttitam* means shown by
sages, saints and scriptures, *cakram* means this path. This path has been
shown by our saints sages guru etc and *na anuvartayati* means - we don't
follow. *iha* means - in this bodily existence. If we don't follow the path
followed by the experienced persons, self-realised persons and the shastras,
which are the Deities. Shastras are Deities. You know shastras are
worshipped. In India whenever Bhagavat Saptahs are conducted, devotees carry
the granth respectfully by placing it on their head in a procession. But if
people do Bhagavata saptahs, in a professional way for money, Srila
Prabhupada condemns that thoroughly. That is why he insists that we should
study Bhagavatam day in and day out with devotion. Else if you conduct
saptahs for money, then you simply freak out. The jist of this verse is very
important. Anything without relationship with Lord is completely useless.
There are millions of house in Kaula Lumpur. But as soon as people come
here, they say - "Oh - this is Jagannath temple." Because our life is
associated with Krishna, our building is used for Krishna, it has got some
significance. Thats why people assemble here. Otherwise people will not
come. They are not mad. They know that this is in relation with Lord and
till we are related with Lord our life has some value. As soon as we go away
from the Lord, the value is lost. If there is no Krishna consciousness, your
life is useless. Follow Srila Prabhupada's way. He was only one. Sun is only
one and we worship him. He never complains that he is alone and has no
company. No. Never he rises late. Never it happens that he doesn't set. He
is always punctual and regularly rises in the morning. He is doing his
prescribed duty whatever is set by the Lord perfectly and sincerely. So we
wait for him and worship him and our life is dependent on him. So like the
sun we must always be sincere. We should use our place for Krishna. If our
life, our building, whatever we have - if its not connected with the Lord,
then we are completely dead.'

Krishna willing, we shall continue to hear more nectar from Gurudev, in the
forthcoming mails.

Thank you very much.
Yours in service of Srila Prabhupada and Srila Gurudeva,
Sudarshana devi dasi.

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From: "Dr Satish Gosain (Sri Krishna Hari Das)" <sri.krishna.hari@gmail.com>
Date: Aug 16 09:09AM +0530
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Date: Mon, Aug 9, 2010 at 3:39 PM
Subject: Jhulan day pic
To: sri.krishna.hari@gmail.com


Hare Krishna
Pls. accept my most humble obeisances, All glories to Srila Prabhupada

here below is the link of ISKCON Delhi social networking page on facebook
being uploaded everyday with all the latest updates

http://www.facebook.com/help/?page=412#!/photo.php?pid=5196396&id=111758416363<http://www.facebook.com/help/?page=412#%21/photo.php?pid=5196396&id=111758416363>

kindly forward this to all to view the pics and news


ur servant

__/\`o_ _____`o_
Vrindavana v dasa

--
Yours Servant

Sri Krishna Hari Das
(Dr Satish Gosain MBBS DNB i Med)
Congregational Preacher, ISKCON, Delhi, NCR & Gurgaon.
Dr Bharti Nursing Home, B-30 hari Nagar, New Delhi 110064
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Date: Aug 16 09:07AM +0530
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Date: Mon, Aug 9, 2010 at 3:39 PM
Subject: Jhulan day pic
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Hare Krishna
Pls. accept my most humble obeisances, All glories to Srila Prabhupada

here below is the link of ISKCON Delhi social networking page on facebook
being uploaded everyday with all the latest updates

http://www.facebook.com/help/?page=412#!/photo.php?pid=5196396&id=111758416363<http://www.facebook.com/help/?page=412#%21/photo.php?pid=5196396&id=111758416363>

kindly forward this to all to view the pics and news


ur servant

__/\`o_ _____`o_
Vrindavana v dasa

--
Yours Servant

Sri Krishna Hari Das
(Dr Satish Gosain MBBS DNB i Med)
Congregational Preacher, ISKCON, Delhi, NCR & Gurgaon.
Dr Bharti Nursing Home, B-30 hari Nagar, New Delhi 110064
+91-97170-55006, +91-98913-86194 +91-11-2512-5595, +91-11-2512-8754
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Date: Mon, Aug 9, 2010 at 11:31 AM
Subject: Light of the Bhagavata.
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*Friday, July 30, 2010
Light of the Bhagavata.*

Attracted by electricity throughout the sky and driven by forceful winds,
clouds gradually cover the surface of the earth to satisfy the needy people
by supplying water, which is the substance of their life. The clouds bestow
rains upon man as the mercy of the Lord, who is always kind to the needy
living being.

We should always know that God is ever kind to us. Despite our gross
disobedience to the laws of God's nature, the Lord is kind enough to look
after our maintenance. Water is one of the most important items for our
maintenance, because without water we can neither produce food grains nor
quench our thirst. Water is also required very liberally for many other
purposes. Thus the Lord has preserved water on three fourths of the globe
and has made it salty to preserve it. Salty water does not decompose, and
that is the arrangement of providence. The Lord has engaged the powerful sun
to evaporate the water of planets like earth and distill it into clear water
in the clouds and then stock it on the peaks of mountains, as we stock water
in overhead tanks for later distribution. part of the stock of water is
refrigerated into ice, so that it will not flood the earth for no good
purpose. The ice melts gradually throughout the year, flows down through the
great rivers, and glides down to the sea again for preservation.

Therefore the laws of God's nature are neither blind nor accidental, as men
with a poor fund of knowledge conclude. Behind the laws of nature is the
living brain of God, just as there is always a lawmaker behind all the laws
of the state. It does not matter whether or not we see the lawmaker behind
the common laws; we must admit that there is a lawmaker. Matter can never
work automatically, without a living hand, and therefore we must admit the
existence of God, the supreme living being, behind the laws of nature. The
Lord says in Bhagavad-gītā that nature works under His superintendence.
Nature is only a power, and behind the power is a powerhouse and a brain,
just as behind electrical power there is an electrical powerhouse, where
everything is conducted by the brain of the resident engineer. The material
nature works so nicely, and not blindly, because of the superintendence of
the supreme powerful God. In the Vedic hymns (Atharva Veda) the same thing
is confirmed. It is only under the superintendence of God that all the
natural laws are conducted.

The Lord distributes His mercy in the form of rains on the scorched earth at
times of dire necessity. He supplies rain when we are practically on the
verge of death for want of water. God is merciful undoubtedly, but He
bestows His mercy on us when we need it most. This is so because we forget
God as soon as we obtain this mercy. We should therefore remember the mercy
of God constantly if we want to avoid distress. We are eternally related
with Him, despite the state of forgetfulness already described above.
Bhagavad-gītā confirms that the laws of nature are stringent because they
are conducted by three different modes. But one who surrenders unto the Lord
overcomes the stringency of nature easily.


--
Your Servant In Service Of Srila Prabhupada and Gurudev,
Saci Gaurasundara Das
Chant:Hare Krishna Hare Krishna Krishna Krishna Hare Hare,Hare Rama Hare
Rama Rama Rama Hare Hare.& be Happy

--
Yours Servant

Sri Krishna Hari Das
(Dr Satish Gosain MBBS DNB i Med)
Congregational Preacher, ISKCON, Delhi, NCR & Gurgaon.
Dr Bharti Nursing Home, B-30 hari Nagar, New Delhi 110064
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Date: Sun, Aug 15, 2010 at 10:37 PM
Subject: [granthraj] How to Attain Transcendental Love for Krishna ? - Part
4
To: granthraj@yahoogroups.com


Hare Krishna Prabhujis and Mathajis,

Please accept my humble obeisances. All glories to His Divine Grace Srila
Prabhupada and Srila Gurudeva.

This mail is in continuation of the series -"How to Attain Transcendental
Love for Krishna ?", based on Bhagavad Gita class given by our beloved
spiritual master HDG Mahavishnu Goswami Maharaj on verse 4.10, in Penang,
West Malaysia, on 16th March 1992. In the previous mails we saw the three
conditions which Lord has given in the verse 4.10 of Gita. Now lets hear
from Gurudev remaining part of the class.

"The result is described in the fourth line. putaah - they are purified.
Those who have knowledge and who perform penance are purified. The last line
is mad bhaavam aagataah. They attain transcendental love for Me. Please
repeat the verse after me.

*veeta-raaga-bhaya-krodhaa / man-mayaa maam upaashritaah
bahavo jnaana-tapasaa / putaa mad-bhaavam aagataah *

Because of knowledge and tapasya, they are purified, pavitra - that is
putaah. Without knowledge and without tapasya, you can never be purified.
You must have knowledge that we have to wake up early in the morning to have
nice devotional service. And that knowledge is not useful until and unless
we get up early. And to get up at 4 am is *tapasya*. If you have knowledge
and tapasya, then you are completely purified - *putaah*. As soon as you
get up, you clean yourselves. Put on nice simple clothes and come in front
of the Lord. Just by this activity, you are purified - *putaa*. There is
nothing else needed. This activity is needed and if you do it, then the Lord
gives you the result - *mad bhaavam aagataah* and this is the way to love
the Supreme Absolute Truth. And this is the way. There is no alternative. *This
is "the" way. There is "no" alternative.* Don't waste your time to find out
the alternatives. Thats why Prabhupada agreed to so many things, but he did
not change the mangala-arathi time. He forced us to get up at 4am. He knew
that this is the process and that there is no alternative to it. Is it clear
now ? Can you please try now ? (Devotees recite the whole shloka.)

This is the way to remember the verse. It takes only 10 to 15 minutes to
learn one verse. And in one hour you can learn 4 verses. And if you have
this practise daily, then in a year you will learn 1400 verses. Bhagavad
Gita has only 700 verses. So you will require 6 months. We had been to
Zurich in Switzerland 2 months ago and the group was like this - studying
Srimad Bhagavatam. I just asked them, "*Do you people know any verses from
Bhagavad Gita* ?". No body raised the hand. But one meek and humble boy
raised the hand. He is a Swiss boy - not of Indian origin even. I thought he
might know few verses here and there. I asked him which verse he knows. He
said 700 ! And really he knew 700 verses. I asked him to recite 11th chapter
which is longest and difficult and to my surprise he recited 11th chapter
and then I asked him how long did he take to learn Bhagavad Gita. He said in
12 months he learnt the verses and next 12 months he learnt the translation
and the whole ocean of knowledge is just squeezed into his brain. Any verse
you take, he just recites the verse and translation. May be it will take
some time for him to get the full understanding of the verses. He is too
young right now. Hardly 22 years. But slowly, because the verses are with
him, sometime automatically it will be explained to him. *This is the best
way to use our time and this is the best way to understand these verses*.

This verse I chose because this verse is meant for everybody and *bahavo
jnaana tapasaa* means many people in the past have always been purified by
knowledge and tapasya. So don't be under the impression that this is only
good for Hare-Krishnas or only Hindus or Muslims etc. No. These are sects.
Dharma is one. Dharma of fire - Where there is fire there will be definitely
heat and light. Fire will not tell that I am in a Muslim's house and so I
will not give heat. Whether it is Muslim, Christian, Hindu or any other
sect - fire's dharma is to give heat and light. Krishna's dharma is to
purify you and these are the conditions. Those people who fulfill these
conditions, they will be purified and they attain the love of God. Sect
doesnt matter. Thats why Srila Prabhupada insisted that this is not a
sectarian knowledge. But it is good for every living entity. Don't think
that because you are occupied in your occupation or because you are married,
you cannot understand this or only I can understand because I am in this.
No. Its meant equally for every body. These ashrams and varnas, they don't
matter at all."

Srila Prabhupada ki Jai ! Srila Gurudev ki Jai !

Thank you very much.
Yours in service of Srila Prabhupada and Srila Gurudeva,
Sudarshana devi dasi.

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dandvat pranam


*How to get shelter at **Krishna**'s lotus feet* ?

*If **the conditioned soul **engages** in the **service **of the **Lord** **and
simultaneously** **carries out** the **orders** of his **spiritual master**
**and serves** him, he **can **get out of the clutches of maya and **become
eligible** for shelter at **Krishna**'s** lotus feet.*

Chaitanya Charithaamrutha,

Madhya Leela, Chapter - 22, Text – 25

A devotee can very peacefully chant the holy name of the Lord by behaving
more humbly than the grass, being tolerant like a tree and offering respects
to everyone, without expecting honor from anyone else. Such qualifications
make it easier to chant the holy name of the Lord

BY JAPA GROUP

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Topic : Surrender

*Why is it good*

*for a devotee to depend on Krishna's mercy* ?**

"Either today or in one hundred years or in some lifetime or other,
Krishna will
certainly bestow His mercy upon me. Therefore, I will take shelter at His
lotus feet with firm determination and never leave Him." Such an attitude
and such patience is required for those practicing devotional service.

Srila Bhaktivninoda Thakur

Sajjana Tosani 11/5

"Srila Bhaktivinoda Vani Vaibhava" Page 101.

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Chant:Hare Krishna Hare Krishna Krishna Krishna Hare Hare,Hare Rama Hare
Rama Rama Rama Hare Hare.& be Happy

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*Srila Sanatana Gosvami*

In his Laghu-Vaisnava-Tosani, Sri Jiva Goswami has mentioned their family
lineage beginning with Sri Sarva, who was a yajur vedi brahmana, Bharadvaja
gotriya, from Karnataka. His son was Sri Aniruddha deva who had two sons Sri
Rupesvara and Sri Harihar-deva. There was apparently some altercation
between the two brothers, who had different mothers (Aniruddha deva had two
wives) as a result of which Sri Rupesvara along with his wife and eight
horses, came to Paulastya desa, where he was befriended by the ruler of that
land, Sri Sekaresvar. Sri Padmanabha deva, the son of Sri Rupesvar was
extremely learned in all the Vedas. He came with his family to live at
Naihati, on the banks of the Ganga. He had eight daughters and five sons.
His five sons, following in the footsteps of their predecessors, were very

expert in the study of Vedas. Their names were Purusottama, Jagannatha,
Narayana, Murari and Mukundadeva. Mukundadeva's son, Sri Kumara deva, being
oppressed by some of the other family members, came to live at Bakla
Candradvip. Sri Kumaradeva had many sons, amongst whom Sri Amar (Sanatana),
Sri Santosh (Sri Rupa) and Sri Vallabha (Anupama) were great devotees.

Sri Sanatana was born in the Christian year 1488 (Sakabda 1410). He, along
with his brothers, began his studies from their maternal uncle's house, in a
small village, Sakurma, near the capital of Gaura-desa.

The Badsa Hassain Shah, having heard of their profound scholarship and
intelligence, decided to engage the two brothers as his ministers. Though
they were unwilling, the order of the Badsa could not be entirely neglected.
Thus they came to live at Ramakeli, the capital of Gaura-desa at that time,
and were presented much wealth by the Badsa. Many brahmanas and pandits from
distant lands would stay with Rupa and Sanatana whenever they would come to
Ramkeli, specially, those from Karnataka and Navadwipa. There is still a
house near the Ganga, called Bhattabati, which is said to have been their
residence.

They had many instructors and professors. In rhetoric their teacher was Sri
Vidyabhusanapada. They were trained in philosophy by the brother of
Sarvabhyuma Bhattacarya, Sri Vidyavacaspati, as well as Sri Paramananda
Bhattacarya, Sri Rampada Bhadrapada. Their names have been mentioned in the
commentary of the tenth canto of Srimad Bhagavatam.

These three brothers were from childhood endowed with great devotion to the
Lord. In memory of Sri Vrindavana, near their residence they planted many
auspicious trees such as Tamal, Kadamba, Juthika and Tulasi. In the midst of
these gardens constructed Shyama-kunda and Radha-kunda. In these auspicious
surroundings they always remained absorbed in service to Sri Madana Mohana.
Having heard something about the famous Nimai Pandita they became very
anxious to have His darshana, and always meditated on when they might get
such a chance.

One morning, Sanatana Goswami, saw a dream in which one brahmana was
presenting the Srimad Bhagavatam to him. Suddenly he woke up, but seeing
that no one was there, he felt sad. Later on, in the morning after he had
finished his bath and performance of puja, one brahmana came to his house
and presented him with the Bhagavata, instructing him to study it very
thoroughly. Having received it in this way, he was beside himself with
bliss, and from that day, considering the Bhagavata to be the essence of all
scriptures, he began its thorough study.

"My only constant companion, my only friend, guru, wealth, that which has
delivered me, my great fortune and the source of my good luck, the form
through which I taste pleasure, my obeisances to you, Srimad Bhagavatam."
[Sri Krsna-lila stava].

When the brothers learned that Nimai Pandita, the life and soul of Nadia,
had accepted sannyasa and gone to stay at Puri, they fainted dead away,
having lost hope of getting His darshana. They were a little pacified only
after a celestial voice informed them that they would be able to see the
Lord, here in Ramakeli itself.

After five years had passed, Mahaprabhu decided to come to Bengal to have
darshana of his mother and mother Ganga. All of the devotees were in ecstasy
and Saci mata was so overjoyed that she was not even aware of her own body.
After spending a few days with Advaita Acarya in Santipur, He came to
Ramakeli. [C. C. Mad 1.166]

Sakara Mallik (Sanatan) and Dabir Khas (Rupa), along with their brother Sri
Ballabha (Anupama), who had a son who was just a small child (Sri Jiva),
they offered salutations at the lotus feet of Mahaprabhu.

After Mahaprabhu had left Ramakeli to return to Puri, the brothers began to
observe some vows and rituals in order to obtain shelter at His lotus feet.
After sending the family members to their residences at Candradwip and
Fateyabad, Sri Rupa and Anupama loaded a boat with their accumulated wealth
and left Ramakeli. Sanatan remained there alone. Thereafter, Rupa and
Anupama, having received news of Mahaprabhu's journey to Vrindavana, set out
to meet Him. Arriving at Prayaga, their desire was fulfilled. At that time
they informed Mahaprabhu that their brother had been incarcerated at
Ramakeli. Mahaprabhu simply smiled and replied that he would get his freedom
very soon.

Meanwhile, after the successful departure of Rupa and Anupama, Sanatan was
planning how he also could make his getaway. The Badsa had entrusted Dabir
Khas and Sakar Mallik with the main responsibility of managing the affairs
of his kingdom. When Sanatana stopped attending his darbar on the plea of
being ill, he sent his personal doctor to examine him. The doctor informed
him that there was nothing wrong with Sakara Mallik, and so the Badsa
personally came there to find out what was the matter. The Badsa addressed
Sanatana Gosvami, "My doctor says that you are perfectly healthy. All my
affairs depend on you, but you are simply sitting in your house, in the
company of these pandits. Your brother has also left. In this way my kingdom
will topple. I don't know what you are trying to do to me."

Sanatana Gosvami said, "We will no longer be able to assist you in the
affairs of your government. You had better find someone else to do it."

The Badsa got up in great anger and declared, "You brothers have ruined all
my plans."

Sanatan replied, "You are the independent ruler of Gauda. If you feel anyone
has committed any misdeed, then you can punish him as you see fit."

The Badsa had Sanatan imprisoned. During this time the Badsa was preparing
to go to Orissa to engage in warfare with the king of that country, so he

requested Sanatana to accompany him. Sanatana refused, telling him, "As you
will naturally try to give pain to the Deities in the temples and the
sadhus, I will

not be able to accompany you."

Therefore the Badsa set out for Orissa leaving Sanatana imprisoned. At this
time Sanatana received a letter from Sri Rupa, stating that he had
depositied eight hundred gold coins with one grocer. With the help of this
money, Sanatana should immediately arrange his release. The account of his
escape and journey to meet Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu in Varanasi is found in
C.c., Madhya-lila ch. 20. After that he went to Vrndavana.

In a kutir cottage made from leaves, Sanatana Gosvami lived for some time at
Mahabon, the birth place of Sri Krsna. One day, he was walking along the
banks of the Yamuna, going to beg some foodstuffs in a nearby village.
Madana Gopaladeva was playing with some cowherd boys there, and when he saw
Sanatana Gosvami he came running towards him, "Baba! Baba!". Catching hold
of Sanatana's hand he told him, "I want to go with you!"

"Lala!" replied Sanatana, "Why do you want to go with me?"

"I want to stay where you live."

"If you stay with me, what will you eat?"

"Baba! Whatever you eat."

"But I only eat some dry capatis and chick peas."

"Then that is what I will eat."

"No that won't be enough for you. You should stay with your mother and

father."

"Na. baba. na. I want to stay with you."

Sanatan Goswami patiently explained that the boy might feel difficulty if he
stayed with him, and sent him home. Then he went to beg some capatis in the
village.

That night, in a dream, he saw that boy again come to him. Smiling very
sweetly, he caught hold of Sanatana's hand and said, "Baba! I am coming
tomorrow to stay with you. My name is Madana Gopal". His dream ended and he
woke up. Losing himself in great ecstasy, he said to himself, "What did I
see? Such a beautiful boy!" Thinking of Lord Krsna he opened the door to his
hut and saw standing outside a beautiful Deity of Gopal. His effulgence
shone in all directions. For a few seconds Sanatana was completely stunned
as he gazed upon Gopal's radiant smile. He expected that the Deity might say
something or come towards him. Finally, tears of love gliding down his
cheeks, Sanatana fell to the ground, offering his dandavats.

Gradually, he performed Gopala's abhiseka (bathed the Deity) and offered
worship to Him. Sanatana's brother Rupa came there and, seeing the Deity,
was deeply moved in ecstatic love. Sanatana kept the Deity with him in his
leaf hut and began to worship Him in great happiness. Srila Rupa Gosvami
immediately sent word of this auspicious event to Mahaprabhu, at Puri.

According to the different perspectives of vision of various devotees,
Krsna's pastimes might sometimes be described in different ways, putting
more or less emphasis on the external events that surround the internal
moods and sentiments felt by Krsna and His devotees. In light of this, it
has been described in the Prema-vilas that the Madana Mohana Deity resided
at the home of one Mathura brahmana, Damodar Caube by name. Subsequent to
the period of time during which He was worshipped by Sri Advaita Acarya
Damodar Caube, his wife Ballabha and their son, Madan Mohan, used to worship
the Deity in the mood of parental affection and friendship. Damodar Caube's
son used to play together with Lord Madana Gopala. Sometimes, like naughty
brothers, they would slight one another and then complain to the parents.
Their parents would feed them together at the same time and lay them down to
rest together.

Sanatana Gosvami used to sometimes beg chapatis from Caube's house. When he
saw how the Deity was being worshipped he would instruct Damodara's wife
Ballabhadevi in the rules and regulations of proper Deity worship. However,
she found all of these rules very difficult to follow. One day when Sanatana
saw the Deity Madana Gopala and the boy Madan Mohan eating their lunch
together, he became moved by the transcendental mood there and the symptoms
of ecstatic love appeared in his body. Then he told Ballabhadevi that she
should worship Madana Gopala according to the dictates of her heart.

One night Sanatana Gosvami and Damodar Caube's wife both had a dream
simultaneously in which Madana Gopala requested to be able to come and live
with Sanatana Gosvami. In great happiness Sanatana received Madana Gopala
from the family and Him to a small hillock near Surja ghat, where he
constructed a small hut made of branches and leaves. Then he began to serve
Madana Gopala, preparing offerings for Him from whatever he obtained by
begging.

One day Madana Gopala refused to eat, complaining that there wasn't even any
salt in the chapatis. Sanatana replied, "Today it's salt and tomorrow it
will be ghee. But I am sorry. I don't have the time or the inclination to
chase around after rich men requesting special items from them". Having
silently listened to this reply Madana Mohana didn't say anything further,
but rather arranged that Krsna dasa Kapoor would come that way, as will
subsequently be described.

Sanatana Gosvami would beg some flour from the village and then with that
prepare capatis for Madana Gopala. Sometimes he would collect some forest
vegetables, roots or spinach and also prepare some vegetables. If sometimes
there was no ghee or oil, or salt, then he would just cook dry capatis. But
he felt very bad about this. On the other hand, he could not see an
alternative. Mahaprabhu had ordered him to compile Bhakti-shastras
(devotional scriptures) and the major portion of his time was devoted to
that. Sometimes it simply wasn't possible to find time to beg some money
with which to purchase salt and oil.

"Madana Mohana is the son of a Maharaj. Seeing that He is simply eating dry
capatis Sanatana felt very sad; Madana Mohana, who is within the heart of
everyone could understand, 'Sanatana wants to render greater service to Me.'
Then Madana Mohana Himself desired that His service might be increased."

Within a few days a wealthy Kshatriya named named Sri Krsna dasa Kapoor came
to Mathura to engage in trade and business. By chance, however, his boat
became stuck on a sand bar in the Yamuna and by no means could he manage to
free it. By the by, he came to learn that a sadhu by the name of Sri Sanatan
Gosvami was living nearby. In order to seek the blessings of the sadhu,
Krsna dasa Kapoor came to his hermitage and found Sanatana Gosvami engaged
in writing.

Sanatana Gosvami's body was very lean and thin from the practice of great
austerities and he was wearing only a kaupin. Krsna das offered his
dandavats and Sanatana Gosvami in turn offered him a grass mat to sit on.
Krsna dasa touched the mat with his hand and sat on the ground. He appealed
to the Gosvami, "Baba! Please bestow your mercy on me."

Sanatana replied, "I am a beggar. What mercy can I bestow upon you?"

"I simply want your blessings. My boat is stuck on a sand bar in the Yamuna,
and we can't free it by any means."

"I am completely ignorant about all these matters You can speak to Madana
Gopala about it."

Krsna das offered his dandavats to Madana Mohanji and spoke to Him, "O
Madana Gopala Deva! If, by Your mercy my boat is freed, then whatever profit
is realized from the sale of its cargo, I will give to this Gosvami to be
engaged in Your service."

Praying this way, Kapoor Seth took leave from Sanatan Gosvami. That
afternoon there was such a downpour of rain that the boat very easily
floated off the sand bar and on to Mathura. Krsna dasa could understand that
this was the mercy of Lord Madana Gopala Deva. His goods were sold at a very
handsome profit and with this money he constructed a temple and kitchen and
made all the necessary arrangements for the royal execution of Sri Madana
Gopala's worship. Seeing this rrangement, Sanatana Gosvami was very happy
and after some period initiated Krsna dasa Kapoor as his disciple.

Sri Madana Mohana Deva is presently worshiped at Karauli, Rajasthan. When
the daugher of the king of Jaipur was offered in marriage to the king of
Karauli, she very insistently requested that her father send Lord Madana
Mohana with her as a dowry, as she was very attached to Him. Her father was
very reluctant and agreed only after stipulating one condition: "Madana
Mohana would be placed in a room with many other Deities. Whoever she chose
while blindfolded could go with her to Karauli."

Madana Mohana reassured her by telling her that she would be able to
recognize Him by the soft touch of His arm. By this stratagem, she easily
recognized Madana Mohana who still resides in Kaurali till this day. There
is a direct bus to Karauli from Jaipur. Otherwise, one can go by train from
Mathura to Hindaun and then from there to Karauli


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Date: Wed, Aug 11, 2010 at 10:17 AM
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*Wednesday, August 3, 2010
They take different positions.*

TRANSLATION

The whole cosmic order is under Me. By My will it is manifested again and
again, and by My will it is annihilated at the end.

PURPORT

This matter is the manifestation of the inferior energy of the Supreme
Personality of Godhead. This has already been explained several times. At
the creation, the material energy is let loose as mahat-tattva, into which
the Lord as His first Puruṣa incarnation, Mahā-Viṣṇu, enters. He lies within
the Causal Ocean and breathes out innumerable universes, and into each
universe the Lord again enters as Garbhodakaśāyī Viṣṇu. Each universe is in
that way created. He still further manifests Himself as Kṣīrodakaśāyī Viṣṇu,
and that Viṣṇu enters into everything-even into the minute atom. This fact
is explained here. He enters into everything.

Now, as far as the living entities are concerned, they are impregnated into
this material nature, and as a result of their past deeds they take
different positions. Thus the activities of this material world begin. The
activities of the different species of living beings are begun from the very
moment of the creation. It is not that all is evolved. The different species
of life are created immediately along with the universe. Men, animals,
beasts, birds-everything is simultaneously created, because whatever desires
the living entities had at the last annihilation are again manifested. It is
clearly stated here that the living entities have nothing to do with this
process. The state of being in their past life in the past creation is
simply manifested again, and all this is done simply by His will. This is
the inconceivable potency of the Supreme Personality of God. And after
creating different species of life, He has no connection with them. The
creation takes place to accommodate the inclinations of the various living
entities, and so the Lord does not become involved with it.


--
Your Servant In Service Of Srila Prabhupada and Gurudev,
Saci Gaurasundara Das
Chant:Hare Krishna Hare Krishna Krishna Krishna Hare Hare,Hare Rama Hare
Rama Rama Rama Hare Hare.& be Happy

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