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Today's topics:
* God is not LOVE! - 5 messages, 3 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.consciousness.mysticism/t/3311b401190f658f?hl=en
* Thrive Premiere, Metropolis, and some other signs of progress - 1 messages,
1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.consciousness.mysticism/t/e66b6be82e640961?hl=en
* I clutch my ideas. - 1 messages, 1 author
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TOPIC: God is not LOVE!
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.consciousness.mysticism/t/3311b401190f658f?hl=en
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== 1 of 5 ==
Date: Tues, Sep 13 2011 11:45 pm
From: Astral Hereticus
On Sep 13, 11:26 pm, David Dalton <dal...@nfld.com> wrote:
> One of my messages is that no someone can be both all
> powerful and perfectly loving. But I think that an
> all powerful someone can be somewhat loving.
>
> I define God as ALL (all/everything) since it is
> all powerful and since ALL(t) creates
> ALL(t + Delta t) so ALL is an ongoing creator and
> that ongoing creation is equivalent to evolution.
>
> I define LOVE as the someone or something that is not
> a someone that has the highest goodness norm as
> defined and measured by ALL (a norm is a length
> measure). Moreover I define LOVE2 as the someone
> that has the highest goodness norm for a someone
> as defined and measured by ALL. So if LOVE is a
> someone then LOVE2=LOVE.
>
> ALL is not LOVE but it could be that LOVE is ALL's
> love or ALL's law to love and LOVE2 may be the
> personification of ALL's lave and may be
> equivalent to the Holy Spirit.
>
> I am not a Christian anymore though I was raised
> Catholic, but I think that my deity ALL is the
> same as the Catholic God the Father, and I postulate
> that my deity LOVE2 is the same as the Holy Spirit,
> and I also have Jesus as one of my deities. BUt
> I don't believe that all three are identical
> though their souls may be aligned such that they
> effectively have one soul.
>
> --
> David Dalton dal...@nfld.com http://www.nfld.com/~dalton(home page)http://www.nfld.com/~dalton/nf.htmlNewfoundland&Labrador Travel & Musichttp://www.nfld.com/~dalton/dtales.htmlSalmon on the Thorns (mystic page)
> "Here I go again...back into the flame" (Sarah McLachlan)
What if the Universe is simply the Ultimate Science Project of an ALL-
powerful being (Creator) -- He would NOT be allowed to MEDDLE with HIS
ongoing experiment by HIS TEACHERS, or else, flunk the subject.
But, and ENDLESS POOL of LOVE and HEALING ENERGY on the OTHER SIDE
would be allowed to be dipped into, or partaken of, by the WORTHY
(clean soul, etc...) who voluntarily become aware of its existence.
And maybe someone already had made a bridge to make it easier for you
to access that pool in need -- a FRIEND, through whom you can do so.
All the Creator would need to do is: write some code, make some basic
rules, create TIME, make a BIG BANG (or a 10^-30 second instant HYPER
INFLATION, if you prefer), and let the system EVOLVE, or ITERATE.
ITERATED Dynamical systems equations are the BUILDING BLOCKS of the
Universe, but are sensitively dependent on INITIAL CONDITIONS.
FRACTAL Self-similarity creates INFINITE COMPLEXITY and VARIETY at ALL
SCALES.
BOUNDARY layers isolate autonomous HIERARCHICAL LEVELS, allowing
INCREASINGLY GENERALIZED EMERGENT ABSTRACTIONS to evolve.
Emergence of LIFE is a HABIT built into the code -- the Universe
PEOPLES -- we are not unique or alone.
Consciousness is a REQUIRED EMERGENT property of the system for the
Creator to get top marks.
All you need to do is to send CONTINUOUS mental messages of AWE, JOY
and GRATITUDE to accumulate brownie point for Him -- these are the
FILTERS.
If your entire life fits within these three filters, your pattern will
be remembered forever, in something like the Akashic Field, to REFINE
the NEXT ITERATION of the same Universe after the Big Crunch.
If you are an insane, hating, killing, stealing, narcissist, your
pattern will be filtered out and you will be FORGOTTEN (OBLIVION or
OUBLIE in French, means "to forget") -- with EVIL eventually being
filtered out of the NEXT ITERATION of the Universe.
It is ALL THAT SIMPLE.
Caveat Emptor.
AH
P.S.
LOVE is the domain of the Creator and all you can do is REFLECT it if
your MIRROR (SOUL) is CLEAN (PURE) enough -- just like the moon
reflects the light of the sun.
AH
== 2 of 5 ==
Date: Wed, Sep 14 2011 9:53 am
From: Master Bait
David Dalton wrote:
> One of my messages is that no someone can be both all
> powerful and perfectly loving. But I think that an
> all powerful someone can be somewhat loving.
>
> I define God as ALL (all/everything) since it is
> all powerful and since ALL(t) creates
> ALL(t + Delta t) so ALL is an ongoing creator and
> that ongoing creation is equivalent to evolution.
>
> I define LOVE as the someone or something that is not
> a someone that has the highest goodness norm as
> defined and measured by ALL (a norm is a length
> measure).
Well then. You simply don't understand Love, My son.
I, Master Bait -- The One Maitreya -- Am the Perfected Embodiment of Universal
and Cosmic Love.
> Moreover I define LOVE2 as the someone
> that has the highest goodness norm for a someone
> as defined and measured by ALL. So if LOVE is a
> someone then LOVE2=LOVE.
>
> ALL is not LOVE but it could be that LOVE is ALL's
> love or ALL's law to love and LOVE2 may be the
> personification of ALL's lave and may be
> equivalent to the Holy Spirit.
>
> I am not a Christian anymore though I was raised
> Catholic, but I think that my deity ALL is the
> same as the Catholic God the Father, and I postulate
> that my deity LOVE2 is the same as the Holy Spirit,
> and I also have Jesus as one of my deities. BUt
> I don't believe that all three are identical
> though their souls may be aligned such that they
> effectively have one soul.
>
== 3 of 5 ==
Date: Wed, Sep 14 2011 9:58 pm
From: "Lady Azure, Baroness of the North Pole"
Astral Hereticus wrote:
> On Sep 14, 12:21 am, "Lady Azure, Baroness of the North Pole"
> <laddie'o'lugh@gall's.org> wrote:
> > WRONG!
> > JESUS, is not "LOVE"!
> > Worship of JESUS, is a Violation of the LAWS of MOSES, , a Return Idolatry,
> > and BLASPHEMY before GOD!!
> >
> > David Dalton wrote:
> > > One of my messages is that no someone can be both all
> > > powerful and perfectly loving. But I think that an
> > > all powerful someone can be somewhat loving.
> >
> > > I define God as ALL (all/everything) since it is
> > > all powerful and since ALL(t) creates
> > > ALL(t + Delta t) so ALL is an ongoing creator and
> > > that ongoing creation is equivalent to evolution.
> >
> > > I define LOVE as the someone or something that is not
> > > a someone that has the highest goodness norm as
> > > defined and measured by ALL (a norm is a length
> > > measure). Moreover I define LOVE2 as the someone
> > > that has the highest goodness norm for a someone
> > > as defined and measured by ALL. So if LOVE is a
> > > someone then LOVE2=LOVE.
> >
> > > ALL is not LOVE but it could be that LOVE is ALL's
> > > love or ALL's law to love and LOVE2 may be the
> > > personification of ALL's lave and may be
> > > equivalent to the Holy Spirit.
> >
> > > I am not a Christian anymore though I was raised
> > > Catholic, but I think that my deity ALL is the
> > > same as the Catholic God the Father, and I postulate
> > > that my deity LOVE2 is the same as the Holy Spirit,
> > > and I also have Jesus as one of my deities. BUt
> > > I don't believe that all three are identical
> > > though their souls may be aligned such that they
> > > effectively have one soul.
> >
> > > --
> > > David Dalton dal...@nfld.com
> > > "Here I go again...back into the flame" (Sarah McLachlan)
> >
> >
>
> Don't forget the saints.
>
> AH
WHY??
St PETER, is the PATRON St of the "TRAVELERS", but the CHURCH ABANDONED HIM for
PAULINE CONVERSIONS, CHAOS, MURDER, and WARFARE!
EVEN STARTED giving "TICKETS TO HEAVEN" again a Few Years Back!
== 4 of 5 ==
Date: Wed, Sep 14 2011 10:03 pm
From: "Lady Azure, Baroness of the North Pole"
Astral Hereticus wrote:
> On Sep 13, 11:26 pm, David Dalton <dal...@nfld.com> wrote:
> > One of my messages is that no someone can be both all
> > powerful and perfectly loving. But I think that an
> > all powerful someone can be somewhat loving.
> >
> > I define God as ALL (all/everything) since it is
> > all powerful and since ALL(t) creates
> > ALL(t + Delta t) so ALL is an ongoing creator and
> > that ongoing creation is equivalent to evolution.
> >
> > I define LOVE as the someone or something that is not
> > a someone that has the highest goodness norm as
> > defined and measured by ALL (a norm is a length
> > measure). Moreover I define LOVE2 as the someone
> > that has the highest goodness norm for a someone
> > as defined and measured by ALL. So if LOVE is a
> > someone then LOVE2=LOVE.
> >
> > ALL is not LOVE but it could be that LOVE is ALL's
> > love or ALL's law to love and LOVE2 may be the
> > personification of ALL's lave and may be
> > equivalent to the Holy Spirit.
> >
> > I am not a Christian anymore though I was raised
> > Catholic, but I think that my deity ALL is the
> > same as the Catholic God the Father, and I postulate
> > that my deity LOVE2 is the same as the Holy Spirit,
> > and I also have Jesus as one of my deities. BUt
> > I don't believe that all three are identical
> > though their souls may be aligned such that they
> > effectively have one soul.
> >
> > --
>
SNIP the HTML CROSS PSSTS
>
> What if the Universe is simply the Ultimate Science Project of an ALL-
> powerful being (Creator) -
WHAT if the "ALL POWERFUL" CREATOR is a LIE TO THE SHEEPLE!
What if the THOUGHT, said "I AM" and the ATOMIC REALITY BECAME!
"BANG"!
The Creator, was MOR, who went behind Gods/ZEUS' Back, to bring forth
the Mountain, from the Ocean, the Mountain "RA", came forth from!
== 5 of 5 ==
Date: Wed, Sep 14 2011 10:05 pm
From: "Lady Azure, Baroness of the North Pole"
Master Bait wrote:
> David Dalton wrote:
>
> > One of my messages is that no someone can be both all
> > powerful and perfectly loving. But I think that an
> > all powerful someone can be somewhat loving.
> >
> > I define God as ALL (all/everything) since it is
> > all powerful and since ALL(t) creates
> > ALL(t + Delta t) so ALL is an ongoing creator and
> > that ongoing creation is equivalent to evolution.
> >
> > I define LOVE as the someone or something that is not
> > a someone that has the highest goodness norm as
> > defined and measured by ALL (a norm is a length
> > measure).
>
> Well then. You simply don't understand Love, My son.
>
> I, Master Bait -- The One Maitreya -
LIAR, it is "MY NAME" in the LEGENDS!
ELPH, called ME DAGDA, and had the ARIANHOD tell me My NAME!
I am the FISH, born of the RIVER!
My FAMILY NAME, is Carved in STONE <><
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TOPIC: Thrive Premiere, Metropolis, and some other signs of progress
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.consciousness.mysticism/t/e66b6be82e640961?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Wed, Sep 14 2011 9:51 am
From: Collier
Seetha LightInAll Hearts wrote:
> Maitreya, the World Teacher
> www.TheEmergence.org
Emergence my ass! The Maitreya is the worst case of spirtual constipation for
the past 30 years. No Maitreya is coming. Their deceptive cult just wants your
money and will do anything to get it.
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TOPIC: I clutch my ideas.
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.consciousness.mysticism/t/c37486cd0c9549bb?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Wed, Sep 14 2011 6:11 pm
From: Astral Hereticus
On Sep 14, 12:18 am, "Lady Azure, Baroness of the North Pole"
<laddie'o'lugh@gall's.org> wrote:
> Astral Hereticus wrote:
> > On Sep 12, 11:26 pm, "Lady Azure, Baroness of the North Pole"
> > <laddie'o'lugh@gall's.org> wrote:
> > > Astral Hereticus wrote:
> > > > On Sep 11, 1:23 am, "Lady Azure, Baroness of the North Pole"
> > > > <laddie'o'lugh@gall's.org> wrote:
> > > > > Astral Hereticus wrote:
> > > > > > On Sep 9, 1:57 am, "Lady Azure, Baroness of the North Pole"
> > > > > > <laddie'o'lugh@gall's.org> wrote:
> > > > > > > Astral Hereticus wrote:
> > > > > > > > On Sep 8, 1:02 am, "Lady Azure, Baroness of the North Pole"
> > > > > > > > <laddie'o'lugh@gall's.org> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > Astral Hereticus wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > On Sep 6, 3:34 am, "Lady Azure, Baroness of the North Pole"
> > > > > > > > > > <laddie'o'lugh@gall's.org> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > Astral Hereticus wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > On Sep 5, 12:44 am, "Lady Azure, Baroness of the North Pole"
> > > > > > > > > > > > <laddie'o'lugh@gall's.org> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Astral Hereticus wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > "I clutch my ideas."
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > The Buddha said that "Life is suffering and then you die".
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Christian view is "PURGATORY"!
> > > > > > > > > > > > > You Purge here so you can continue your journey after!
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Many however want to return, some ETERNALLY!
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > The FIRE TEMPERS us to make us strong like STEEL
>
> > > > > > > > > > > The Rich Fat Cats taunting people, are DEMONS which one should not Worship
> > > > > > > > > > > or Emulate!
> > > > > > > > > > > Joseph and Mary spent the Night in the Stable with out Food or Water,
> > > > > > > > > > > because the owner was afraid he might loose a penny if the King found out
> > > > > > > > > > > he helped them!
>
> > > > > > > > > > FEAR has been driving humanity for eons and is at the root of all
> > > > > > > > > > evil.
>
> > > > > > > > > No, GOLD/Money has been used by the "SOVEREIGN'S" to enslave the SHEEPLE, for
> > > > > > > > > Eons!
> > > > > > > > > The Incantation of Chaos, was Outlawed by Akhinatin and his People, resulting in
> > > > > > > > > the WAR with Karnac!
>
> > > > > > > > > > FEAR of: death, pain, hunger, rejection, ridicule, loss of
> > > > > > > > > > possessions, loss of status, loss of self identity, genetic oblivion
> > > > > > > > > > through non-procreation, novelty, love and emotional vulnerability are
> > > > > > > > > > some of the so-called rational fears.
> > > > > > > > > > There are also unfounded unknown fears driving the insane that add to
> > > > > > > > > > the mess.
> > > > > > > > > > When the response to minimize a particular fear becomes
> > > > > > > > > > disproportionate to its significance we end up with war, genocide,
> > > > > > > > > > persecution, division, hate, greed, vanity, ego, bling, fashion,
> > > > > > > > > > overpopulation, conservatism, selfishness, texting, lack of empathy,
> > > > > > > > > > and random insane violence.
> > > > > > > > > > The perpetrators will fight to the death to defend and justify their
> > > > > > > > > > actions quoting precedents, books and prophets, because they truly
> > > > > > > > > > believe that their actions are justified and righteous -- "they feel
> > > > > > > > > > that GOD is on THEIR side".
> > > > > > > > > > They are truly lost and only divine intervention will save them -- but
> > > > > > > > > > they do not know how find the humility to ask -- to partake of "the
> > > > > > > > > > endless pool on the other side" (Sade).
> > > > > > > > > > All we can do is try to avoid them and to teach them if possible.
> > > > > > > > > > "All answers are within your heart -- if you are STRONG and HUMBLE
> > > > > > > > > > enough to listen."
>
> > > > > > > > > > AH
>
> > > > > > > > Very true -- "He who has the GOLD makes the RULES." -- (the real
> > > > > > > > "Golden Rule" :-)
> > > > > > > > After his death, everything reverted to the way it was before -- and
> > > > > > > > then the Amun priests took over.
>
> > > > > > > > AH
>
> > > > > > > In Egypt, the Sojourners started their Own Kingdom!
> > > > > > > Which is why you have ZION and Israel!
>
> > > > > > Yes, Exodus 22:21.
> > > > > > And they "crossed over" from darkness (sin) to light (salvation).
>
> > > > > > AH
>
> > > > > Baghavadghita, say's mankind has it all backwards anyway!
> > > > > The Light Ones, lack Fire and in truth represent the Darkness an Moon, while the Dark
> > > > > Ones, represent the Fire of the Sun!
> > > > > That is why the Dark Side represents the Rainbow, while the Puritan's of the "Master
> > > > > Race", represents the Darkness!
> > > > > Anglo Boatnick's with their Monotheistic Views, don't get along to good with Caucasian
> > > > > Gypsies of the Horse Tribes!
> > > > > How dare there be 2 Tribes of White People?
> > > > > "PIG'S of the UNDER GROUNDERS, have Nothing on the Pig Heads of the Light!
> > > > > Why the Doc Alfar are the Legends, Lict Alfar, Can Only DREAM of!
>
> > > > This is very ancient history you conjure up.
>
> > > So am I!
> > > LEGENDS, tell "MY" story!
> > > I, "AM" the BEAST!
>
> > So, how can we help individuals (humanity) achieve enlightenment in
> > the most efficient way?
>
> MAHAYANA!
'I must lead all beings to liberation, I will stay here until the end,
even for the sake of one living mortal'.
AH
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