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Today's topics:
* Truth is Eternal, Illusion is Not! - 2 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.meditation/t/11625dd694e484cb?hl=en
* Reasons to Celebrate the Impending Collapse of the Corrupt Global Economic
System - 4 messages, 3 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.meditation/t/6865ab1385f5d7e8?hl=en
* Master Plan: The Road Ahead - 2 messages, 2 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.meditation/t/c7411e865e1e008c?hl=en
* Is Meditation That Simple? - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.meditation/t/b2c9a7709359b4d6?hl=en
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TOPIC: Truth is Eternal, Illusion is Not!
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.meditation/t/11625dd694e484cb?hl=en
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Mon, Aug 15 2011 11:01 pm
From: arkent3@frontier.com (Raymond Karczewski)
Truth is Eternal, Illusion is Not!
By: Raymond Ronald Karczewski© -- A Living Christ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Mf060J5mVQ You-Tube Video
Truth is Eternal, Illusion is Not!
Having just spoken a Truth, let us examine it for its veracity, its
accuracy, its indisputable holistic essence, shall we?
God is Truth. Truth is God. Two words, interchangeable whose
essence remains the same. Despite the configuration of words, or my
manipulation of symbols, and concepts, just used, the essence of that
statement is found to be beyond those words, symbols and concepts, is
it not?
Life is eternal. It has no boundaries, no limitations, no points of
intellectuality perceived via restrictive physicality. Its ephemeral
forms (beliefs held as dualistic illusions) change constantly, but
its (nondualistic) essence remains intact forever, does it not? What
was true at the beginning of (thought perceived) creation is equally
true today, this moment, this eternal instant of NOW! Truth remains
untouched and unimpaired by the passage of Time. Only illusiond
Satanic intellectual manipulations are subject to time.
Have you been able to grasp what was just said, in your present
state of intellectual capacity? Probably not!
You see, one cannot come to the Truth, to God via the venue of
satanic intellectualism. Why? Because God, Truth is Nondualistic,
Holistic, whole, complete, oneness, harmonious, peace, while
fragmentary, timebound, nonholisic (dualistic) thought is Satanic, in
opposition to itself and others which are merely projected opposition
of itself outwardly, creating the satanic world (hell) they perceive
their lives to be and therefore, at best temporary and always at war.
One cannot serve two masters is just another way of saying that one
cannot serve Truth, and at the same time serve the Idea of Truth. One
(Truth_ is Holistic which the other, (Illusion) is not, is but a mere
reflecion of that which is whole.
How many of you live in Truth? In Divine Awareness, In direct
perception, apprehension of Truth? How many of you live in your
minds, enthralled and bound to the counterfeit idea of Truth which is
BELIEF? Can one live in Truth and in Belief at the same time -- Now?
See what I mean?
How many of you are capable of grasping the eternal moment of
Truth, which is possible only through direct perception, apprehension
of Truth? How many of you were TRAINED through psychological pressure
to live, worship and abide in Belief? Despite of lifetime of
unyielding reinforcement of such ideas, have you found peace, Love,
harmony in your lives?
How many of you live in fear and are subject to the repeated
inculcations of the Idea of Truth via Political and Religious
Conditioning? Are such remote controlled repetitious stimuli actually
Truth, or are they mere dead (aftermoment based_ reflections of that
which is beyond thought, that which is real, eternal, holistic?
One cannot serve God, Truth and also Mammon, Satanic Illusion at the
same time. That is the Hell that all are born into on this planet,
and must find their way back home, to Truth, to God. That is the
purpose of this Life that civilized man is challenged to reconcile.
Few find it, Many are lost from birth to death, without ever realizing
what their life was all about. That's the Hell of it, Isn't it?
I am a Christ, a simple man of Truth. I have shared with you, a
Truth that no politician, priest or minister is capable of sharing,
for they are the satanic minions which condition and hold you captive
to the psychological, hypnotic Trance that is "Civilized Life."
You have been trained to DIE FOR YOUR BELIEFS, YOUR IDEAS OF GOD,
OF TRUTH. But can you LIVE FOR TRUTH? GET THE PICTURE???
Raymond Ronald Karczewski© -- A Living Christ
Listen to the rest of my "U-Tube Videos For Patriots"
http://www.youtube.com/user/RaymondKarczewski
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Raymond Ronald Karczewski© http://www.arkenterprises.com
Change The Quality of Your Life Today
http://www.mygoldplan.com/raykar/
== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Tues, Aug 16 2011 4:39 am
From: arkent3@frontier.com (Raymond Karczewski)
Truth is Eternal, Illusion is Not!
m_18 <magus_18@geocities.com> wrote:
Raymond Karczewski <arkent3@earthlink.net> wrote:
"By: Raymond Ronald Karczewski© -- A Living Christ"
m_18 > You are clearly a NUT JOB.
m_18 > You don't even know what the word "christ" means.
rk: Hmmn, It seems that your Satanic Conditioned Christian Beliefs
have gotten in the way of our communication. I can feel the typical
surge of Christian love emanating in your words.
rk: You and millions of other Christians are blind to it all, aren't
you?
rk: Hell, isn't it?
--- On Mon, 8/15/11, Raymond Karczewski <arkent3@earthlink.net> wrote:
Truth is Eternal, Illusion is Not!
Listen to the rest of my "U-Tube Videos For Patriots"
http://www.youtube.com/user/RaymondKarczewski
Raymond Ronald Karczewski© http://www.arkenterprises.com
Change The Quality of Your Life Today
http://www.mygoldplan.com/raykar/
*********************************************
Raymond Ronald Karczewski© http://www.arkenterprises.com
Change The Quality of Your Life Today
http://www.mygoldplan.com/raykar/
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TOPIC: Reasons to Celebrate the Impending Collapse of the Corrupt Global
Economic System
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.meditation/t/6865ab1385f5d7e8?hl=en
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== 1 of 4 ==
Date: Tues, Aug 16 2011 1:06 am
From: Bruce Morgen
"Lady Azure, Baroness of the North Pole" <laddie'o'lugh@gall's.org> wrote:
>KEWL, cause "LIKE IT, or NOT", "I" am Pendragon.
>The "GREAT BEAR/Rampant Lion"!
>"THE", "Chosen", "Left Hand", of "GOD"!
Of course you are, no
doubt whatsoever. Do
carry on!
>
>Bruce Morgen wrote:
>
>> "Lady Azure, Baroness of the North Pole" <laddie'o'lugh@gall's.org> wrote:
>>
>> >
>> >
>> >Bruce Morgen wrote:
>> >
>> >> q4l <q4l@nomail.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >Like attention starved dogs in lonely places who bark at nothing,
>> >> >simply to attract some attention. Apparently that is what some people
>> >> >are about at this point in time. Truth, logic, or
>> >> >sensibility are not part of the picture.
>> >>
>> >> "Truth, logic, or sensibility
>> >> are not part of the picture"
>> >> among the diehard followers
>> >> of that consistently failed
>> >> Euro-Esotericist and Fabian
>> >> Socialist crackpot Ben Creme,
>> >> so one must assume you are
>> >> commenting on your own
>> >> delusional cultscreed.
>> >>
>> >> The world has real problems
>> >> that require real solutions,
>> >> not laughably elaborate and
>> >> inveterately wishful
>> >> reiterations of long-
>> >> discredited notions cribbed
>> >> from the likes of Blavatsky,
>> >> Besant, Bailey, & Co.
>> >
>> >To you discredited!
>> >To Me, recital of the Visions of the Oracles and Prophets, which are
>> >Unfolding before your eyes!
>> >Like it or Not, this IS the LEGEND of the END OF TIMES!
>> >The BEAST is a Descendant of JACOB, Jacob could "STOP TIME"!
>> >NASA is Launching Missiles at the RAINBOW BRIDGE, and the OIL BOYS are
>> >after ANWR, RAGNAROC is afoot!
>> >Time for Lum o Hod, to Take away the Tsin's of the Earth!
>> >
>> Whatever you say, dear.
== 2 of 4 ==
Date: Tues, Aug 16 2011 11:37 am
From: Collier
Lady Azure, Baroness of the North Pole wrote:
>
>
> Collier wrote:
>
>> Lady Azure, Baroness of the North Pole wrote:
>>
>> >
>> >
>> > Collier wrote:
>> >
>> >> q4l wrote:
>> >>
>> >> > The old corrupt world economic system is destined to totally
>> >> > collapse.
>> >>
>> >> Benjamin Creme's nasty cult is destined to totally collapse.
>> >
>> > MAHAYANA, is a Lot OLDER and BIGGER than That!
>> > Just because You only know one Idea, doesn't make it Right!
>> > Some Liar Selling Secrets to Heaven, doesn't make the Legends a LIE!
>> Creme's crap has nothing to do with the legend except the name. Nothing.
>
> Few, "PRETENDERS", do!
> Brown Shirts, are not BHEARE's or Bear Shirts!
> There is a Difference, between ARYAN, and Au'Rain!
> Few understand "WERELICH" teachings!
> "I" am a "Descendant of OG, the "WORD, The FISH, < ><, Born of the RIVER!
> Padmieoghm, of the Oghmanie, "Meat of the Pig/Child of HAM"!
> "DAMN the BILLY GOATS WITH TITS", RIGHT???!
> Burning St. Jon, was found NOT TO BE an ACT taken "FOR", GOD!
> Girls will be Boys, and BOYS will be GIRLS!
> Like it or Not, "Faeries/Eunuch's", EXIST!!!
> GET USED TO IT!
Is that you, Sarah Palin?
== 3 of 4 ==
Date: Tues, Aug 16 2011 2:17 pm
From: "MichaelTurnersfs@yahoo.com"
On Aug 16, 1:06 am, Bruce Morgen <edi...@juno.com> wrote:
> "Lady Azure, Baroness of the North Pole" <laddie'o'lugh@gall's.org> wrote:
>
> >KEWL, cause "LIKE IT, or NOT", "I" am Pendragon.
> >The "GREAT BEAR/Rampant Lion"!
> >"THE", "Chosen", "Left Hand", of "GOD"!
>
> Of course you are, no
> doubt whatsoever. Do
> carry on!
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> >Bruce Morgen wrote:
>
> >> "Lady Azure, Baroness of the North Pole" <laddie'o'lugh@gall's.org> wrote:
>
> >> >Bruce Morgen wrote:
>
> >> >> q4l <q...@nomail.com> wrote:
>
> >> >> >Like attention starved dogs in lonely places who bark at nothing,
> >> >> >simply to attract some attention. Apparently that is what some people
> >> >> >are about at this point in time. Truth, logic, or
> >> >> >sensibility are not part of the picture.
>
> >> >> "Truth, logic, or sensibility
> >> >> are not part of the picture"
> >> >> among the diehard followers
> >> >> of that consistently failed
> >> >> Euro-Esotericist and Fabian
> >> >> Socialist crackpot Ben Creme,
> >> >> so one must assume you are
> >> >> commenting on your own
> >> >> delusional cultscreed.
>
> >> >> The world has real problems
> >> >> that require real solutions,
> >> >> not laughably elaborate and
> >> >> inveterately wishful
> >> >> reiterations of long-
> >> >> discredited notions cribbed
> >> >> from the likes of Blavatsky,
> >> >> Besant, Bailey, & Co.
>
> >> >To you discredited!
> >> >To Me, recital of the Visions of the Oracles and Prophets, which are
> >> >Unfolding before your eyes!
> >> >Like it or Not, this IS the LEGEND of the END OF TIMES!
> >> >The BEAST is a Descendant of JACOB, Jacob could "STOP TIME"!
> >> >NASA is Launching Missiles at the RAINBOW BRIDGE, and the OIL BOYS are
> >> >after ANWR, RAGNAROC is afoot!
> >> >Time for Lum o Hod, to Take away the Tsin's of the Earth!
>
> >> Whatever you say, dear.
Just because some watery tart lobbed a sword at you doesn't make you a
king!
== 4 of 4 ==
Date: Tues, Aug 16 2011 3:57 pm
From: Bruce Morgen
"MichaelTurnersfs@yahoo.com" <MichaelTurnersfs@yahoo.com> wrote:
>On Aug 16, 1:06 am, Bruce Morgen <edi...@juno.com> wrote:
>> "Lady Azure, Baroness of the North Pole" <laddie'o'lugh@gall's.org> wrote:
>>
>> >KEWL, cause "LIKE IT, or NOT", "I" am Pendragon.
>> >The "GREAT BEAR/Rampant Lion"!
>> >"THE", "Chosen", "Left Hand", of "GOD"!
>>
>> Of course you are, no
>> doubt whatsoever. Do
>> carry on!
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> >Bruce Morgen wrote:
>>
>> >> "Lady Azure, Baroness of the North Pole" <laddie'o'lugh@gall's.org> wrote:
>>
>> >> >Bruce Morgen wrote:
>>
>> >> >> q4l <q...@nomail.com> wrote:
>>
>> >> >> >Like attention starved dogs in lonely places who bark at nothing,
>> >> >> >simply to attract some attention. Apparently that is what some people
>> >> >> >are about at this point in time. Truth, logic, or
>> >> >> >sensibility are not part of the picture.
>>
>> >> >> "Truth, logic, or sensibility
>> >> >> are not part of the picture"
>> >> >> among the diehard followers
>> >> >> of that consistently failed
>> >> >> Euro-Esotericist and Fabian
>> >> >> Socialist crackpot Ben Creme,
>> >> >> so one must assume you are
>> >> >> commenting on your own
>> >> >> delusional cultscreed.
>>
>> >> >> The world has real problems
>> >> >> that require real solutions,
>> >> >> not laughably elaborate and
>> >> >> inveterately wishful
>> >> >> reiterations of long-
>> >> >> discredited notions cribbed
>> >> >> from the likes of Blavatsky,
>> >> >> Besant, Bailey, & Co.
>>
>> >> >To you discredited!
>> >> >To Me, recital of the Visions of the Oracles and Prophets, which are
>> >> >Unfolding before your eyes!
>> >> >Like it or Not, this IS the LEGEND of the END OF TIMES!
>> >> >The BEAST is a Descendant of JACOB, Jacob could "STOP TIME"!
>> >> >NASA is Launching Missiles at the RAINBOW BRIDGE, and the OIL BOYS are
>> >> >after ANWR, RAGNAROC is afoot!
>> >> >Time for Lum o Hod, to Take away the Tsin's of the Earth!
>>
>> >> Whatever you say, dear.
>
>Just because some watery tart lobbed a sword at you
>doesn't make you a king!
You are correct, Michaelji
-- take it from my Ex,
Calibur!
Best wishes to you and
yours, my friend.
Much love -- Bruce
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TOPIC: Master Plan: The Road Ahead
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.meditation/t/c7411e865e1e008c?hl=en
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Tues, Aug 16 2011 8:06 am
From: RyFri
Who cares about Alaska? Big oil would like it, but they have bigger
fish to fry. Like the reserve found in Texas that is bigger that all
the oil in Syria. It is the biggest find ever on the entire planet.
Way bigger than Alaska. It's way out in the western desert and no one
cares if they take it, so let them. In other news, a couple years ago
a person who everyone thought was a quack discovered that he could
actually burn (like with fire) saltwater by using a low input radio
wave on it. It would take lower energy input thanthe energy output.
His work has been validated by a major university who will continue
tests. Imagine oil being dumped for seawater. That is progress. Btw
scientists think that they have found a cure for cancer. Other
scientists have definitely discovered the cure for ALL viruses by
targeting the cells reproducing the viruses instead of the virus
itself. Proven in mice, now on to humans. Imagine a world without te
flu or AIDS or even HIV Many STDs gone forever. All viruses wiped out.
No more cancer. Saltwater, our most abundant resource by millions of
times (and one that we can easily reconstitute after using) as our
energy source. And have you heard about the totally NAtURAL bisin that
stops bacteria from making food Rot? It is related to nisin which we
already use. But nisin cannot kill the e.coli bacteria. Bisin can do
this and more. Imagine storing meat at fridge temps for years and then
eating it safely. Unnatural? Not at all. It is bisin. Did I mention
the work scientists are doing on aging? They are convinced that the
first person to love to 150 is living among us. In ten years they say
that the first person to live to 1000 wil be born. Look these thing up
and regain a sense of wonder and optimism again. I see a world of
peace ahead, though doubtless some will bend it to crooked means.
== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Tues, Aug 16 2011 3:50 pm
From: Reverend Al
RyFri wrote:
> Who cares about Alaska? Big oil would like it, but they have bigger
> fish to fry. Like the reserve found in Texas that is bigger that all
> the oil in Syria. It is the biggest find ever on the entire planet.
> Way bigger than Alaska. It's way out in the western desert and no one
> cares if they take it, so let them. In other news, a couple years ago
> a person who everyone thought was a quack discovered that he could
> actually burn (like with fire) saltwater by using a low input radio
> wave on it. It would take lower energy input thanthe energy output.
Hey! Where's that flying car you promised! YOU PROMISED!
> His work has been validated by a major university who will continue
> tests. Imagine oil being dumped for seawater. That is progress. Btw
> scientists think that they have found a cure for cancer. Other
> scientists have definitely discovered the cure for ALL viruses by
> targeting the cells reproducing the viruses instead of the virus
> itself. Proven in mice, now on to humans. Imagine a world without te
> flu or AIDS or even HIV Many STDs gone forever. All viruses wiped out.
> No more cancer. Saltwater, our most abundant resource by millions of
> times (and one that we can easily reconstitute after using) as our
> energy source. And have you heard about the totally NAtURAL bisin that
> stops bacteria from making food Rot? It is related to nisin which we
> already use. But nisin cannot kill the e.coli bacteria. Bisin can do
> this and more. Imagine storing meat at fridge temps for years and then
> eating it safely. Unnatural? Not at all. It is bisin. Did I mention
> the work scientists are doing on aging? They are convinced that the
> first person to love to 150 is living among us. In ten years they say
> that the first person to live to 1000 wil be born. Look these thing up
> and regain a sense of wonder and optimism again. I see a world of
> peace ahead, though doubtless some will bend it to crooked means.
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TOPIC: Is Meditation That Simple?
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.meditation/t/b2c9a7709359b4d6?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Tues, Aug 16 2011 9:38 am
From: rickhur
Meditation is simply a means of becoming aware of the Present Moment.
And once you have found out what your own Now Presence feels like
through practice, you can go there in any instant. In fact, the more
you go there the more it becomes your natural state so that you are
less and less caught up in the head, and more in more intensely aware
of the Present. It can be accessed anywhere, anytime; walking,
talking, working, singing, driving, painting, sitting, watching a
movie...any doing. Just become aware of yourself in any situation and
you are there, present. Are you driving? Then become intensely aware
that you are driving, notice your hands on the wheel, feel the sun on
your hands, the sounds of traffic and wind, the road ahead, of whats
on the horizon. Are you cooking? Then become aware of every movement
and action you are taking. Feel your feet on the floor, the bowl in
your arm and the wooden spoon in your hand. Are you rinsing a dish?
Then feel the hard porcelain in your hand, feel the water running over
your skin. Notice if it is hot or cold? What are the sounds in the
kitchen? What are the smells? Be there for each movement. Witness each
act, for example, like drying off the dish and putting it away. Know
every single action you take. The more mindfully you do anything, the
better the end result because mindfully means that you are there
completely when you are doing it. It means you are connected, are one
with True Creativity accessed through the Present, and your doing will
have the highest quality to it. There is no division. When your
attention is somewhere in past or future thinking, you are not here,
now. You are somewhere else while the doing is happening. Your doing
is incomplete because the quality of attention you could have given
the doing is missing. What could have been a true joy and expression
of Him is lost. But all is not lost. The moment you remember yourself
doing whatever it is you are doing in the Now Present Moment, you have
been found again. Simply remembering, simply being a witness to all
your doing turns all things into a meditation...a doorway to the Now.
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