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Today's topics:
* JAP JI - Stanza 18 - 2 messages, 2 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.consciousness.mysticism/t/ab23e20d28a15332?hl=en
* ALL(t) as ongoing creator - 4 messages, 4 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.consciousness.mysticism/t/398309ce619e1203?hl=en
* The Reality and Work of the Space Brothers - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.consciousness.mysticism/t/dd5931b115bffc0f?hl=en
* Kathy Scott Perry 8:30p Sat Nothing to fear / Dr David Kamnitzer Sun8pm ET -
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TOPIC: JAP JI - Stanza 18
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.consciousness.mysticism/t/ab23e20d28a15332?hl=en
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Mon, Aug 29 2011 11:54 am
From: "MichaelTurnersfs@yahoo.com"
JAP JI - Stanza 18
Innumerable are the fools, stark blind in ignorance; and
Innumerable the thieves and crooks that thrive on ill-gotten gains;
Innumerable those that exercise tyranny and oppression; and
Innumerable the cut-throats living by heinous crimes;
Innumerable those that revel in shameless sins; and
Innumerable the liars that practice fraud and falsehood;
Innumerable the impious that live on unwholesome foods; and
Innumerable the slanderers who add to their burden by calumniating
others;
Innumerable the many for lowly Nanak to describe.
What power have I to conceive of thy wonderful nature?
Too poor am I to make an offering of my life to Thee;
Whatever pleaseth thee, is good.
Thou art forevermore; O Formless One!
(by Guru Nanak. Translation/Interpretation by Sant Kirpal Singh)
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Michael Turner
Spiritual Freedom Satsang
P.O. Box 1580
Sparks, Nevada 89432-1580
Facebook: Michael Turner-sfs
Twitter: @Michaelsfs
Yahoo: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SFS
Newsgroup: http://groups.google.com/group/alt.meditation.shabda
== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Tues, Aug 30 2011 9:09 pm
From: "Lady Azure, Baroness of the North Pole"
"MichaelTurnersfs@yahoo.com" wrote:
> JAP JI - Stanza 18
>
> Innumerable are the fools, stark blind in ignorance; and
> Innumerable the thieves and crooks that thrive on ill-gotten gains;
Their name be PALMER!
to which GOD, gave COVENANT, to the "BEAST" to "DESTROY"!
Home RULE Muni's, EXEMPT, for the LAW, are an Abomination, before "THE
PEOPLE"!
So OBAMA, can Write THEM a Check, or BADB of the PEOPLE, TITS in a
Bikini with a Machine Gun, or Fatherless Son's whom GOD Spoke WITH!
Blue Balled, SELF MADE, JERK OFF, or MOMIES CHILD, whom GOD Chose to
fill "DESTINY"!
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TOPIC: ALL(t) as ongoing creator
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.consciousness.mysticism/t/398309ce619e1203?hl=en
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== 1 of 4 ==
Date: Tues, Aug 30 2011 7:52 pm
From: David Dalton
My top-ranked deity is ALL which I define as all/everything
or all as a unit or by saying "Is there anything outside ALL? No.".
Obviously if anyone is all powerful ALL is, though you
could argue that just as we do not have access to the
nuclear energy in our bodies ALL might not have access
to all the energy in its body. Also all powerful does
not necessarily mean infinitely powerful and I think
certainly does not mean infinite energy density.
Also I have argued that ALL is the creator by saying
that ALL(t) creates ALL(t+Delta t) where Delta t is
a small time increment; so there is ongoing creation.
But the problem with that is that I define the universe
as spacetime and its contents and say that the universe
is a subset of ALL. Thus time is a subset of ALL and
it doesn't make sense to say ALL(t).
Can any of you see a way for me to repose my creation argument?
--
David Dalton dalton@nfld.com http://www.nfld.com/~dalton (home page)
http://www.nfld.com/~dalton/nf.html Newfoundland&Labrador Travel & Music
http://www.nfld.com/~dalton/dtales.html Salmon on the Thorns (mystic page)
"Here I go again...back into the flame" (Sarah McLachlan)
== 2 of 4 ==
Date: Tues, Aug 30 2011 9:10 pm
From: "Lady Azure, Baroness of the North Pole"
David Dalton wrote:
> My top-ranked deity is ALL
TO BAD, Christian "WITCH HUNTERS" replaced "ALL' withj JEZSUS!
== 3 of 4 ==
Date: Tues, Aug 30 2011 10:59 pm
From: Angelique Bouchard
On Aug 30, 9:10 pm, "Lady Azure, Baroness of the North Pole"
<laddie'o'lugh@gall's.org> wrote:
> David Dalton wrote:
> > My top-ranked deity is ALL
>
> TO BAD, Christian "WITCH HUNTERS" replaced "ALL' withj JEZSUS!
Are you not aware of how many Christians were tortured and killed in
the early years by 'pagans'?
== 4 of 4 ==
Date: Tues, Aug 30 2011 11:46 pm
From: Bruce Morgen
Angelique Bouchard <mladyaine@yahoo.com> wrote:
>On Aug 30, 9:10 pm, "Lady Azure, Baroness of the North Pole"
><laddie'o'lugh@gall's.org> wrote:
>> David Dalton wrote:
>> > My top-ranked deity is ALL
>>
>> TO BAD, Christian "WITCH HUNTERS" replaced "ALL' withj JEZSUS!
>
>Are you not aware of how many Christians were tortured and killed in
>the early years by 'pagans'?
...and then that sick death
cult of Christianity made
martyrdom a virtue devoutly
to be wished for -- and it
wasn't long before it became
the official state religion
of the Roman Empire. To
this very day the Vatican
hierarchy is modeled on
Roman organizational
principles -- the persecuted
became handmaidens to the
persecutors, and their
cult's canonical scriptures
and creed were established
under the auspices of a
constantly warring Roman
emperor.
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TOPIC: The Reality and Work of the Space Brothers
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.consciousness.mysticism/t/dd5931b115bffc0f?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Tues, Aug 30 2011 8:18 pm
From: q4l
Posting this in case it's of interest to anyone. Clearly the world
authorities and their "news" media agencies are mostly interested in
enjoying their power and wealth and maintaining the status quo.
There is much information hidden from the public that when it is
widely known, can/will transform the world - taking the power away
from the richest and most corrupt minority, and putting it in the
hands of the majority. When that has taken place, we will see true
democracy, world peace and governments that are truly for the people,
rather than for the super rich, while screwing the people. As they say
'The truth will set us free'. More lies will just perpetuate the same
old BS, that a select few are very comfortable with.
UC
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In my experience, what we call UFOs, the flying saucers, come from the
planets of our own system. Not from the Pleiades, or Sirius or
somewhere outside our solar system, but from, mainly, Mars and Venus.
A few other planets like Jupiter and Mercury are involved, but the
vast majority of sightings of the UFOs come from Mars and Venus.
Practically all of them are made on Mars, even the Venusian ones. They
are Venusian in design, and they are quite distinct, different in
design and technology, but they are actually constructed on Mars. And
they are all constructed by thought.
The people in physical bodies on Mars and Venus, Mercury, Jupiter and
so on are not at the same level or vibration of physicality that we
experience. We know only three aspects of the physical: solid
physical, liquid physical and gaseous physical. Above gas there are
still four further levels of physical matter which so far have not
been discovered on this planet. When they are discovered we will
understand a great deal more about the nature and origin of disease,
the purpose of life on this planet and of the reality of life on other
planets.
The beings on Mars and Venus and the other planets are on the four
higher levels of the physical. If you went to Mars or Venus you would
see no one, but nevertheless they are in physical matter, and have
bodies made of that subtle, finer physical matter to which we give the
term 'etheric'. We ourselves have bodies of dense physical, liquid
physical, gaseous physical and the four etheric physical planes — but
we have not yet discovered the latter.
They have been demonstrated to exist by the great scientist and
psychologist Wilhelm Reich, who was a colleague and one-time assistant
of Freud. He died in an American prison in 1957. He was arrested for
purporting to treat diseases with instruments which he claimed
(correctly) attracted matter from the etheric planes, which he called
orgone energy. He saw it as one vast plane of orgone energy, which he
saw, rightly, as being everywhere in the universe, substanding the
outer solid physical plane. Esotericists understand the etheric plane
as four planes, becoming finer and finer as they go higher. The fourth
etheric is just above gas, and is invisible unless you have etheric
vision. The reality of this etheric energy, of what he called "orgone
energy", was demonstrated palpably by Wilhelm Reich in various simple
experiments. Nevertheless, he was arrested because he used instruments
which he called the "orgone accumulator", boxes which accumulated the
etheric energy of some levels, usually the two lower levels, the
fourth and the third etheric, to treat diseases including cancer and
various other diseases. In America that was deemed illegal. The Food
and Drug Administration arrested him, refused to allow him to prove
his work, and he died in prison.
Unless one understands the reality of the etheric levels of energy as
finer, subtler, levels of matter, one cannot begin to understand the
UFO phenomenon, and one cannot understand the creation of crop circles
— because they are all related. The crop circles are created by
people, mainly from Mars and Venus, with a few exceptions from other
planets. The vast majority of them are Martian, some Venusian, and
they are all over the world. Crop circles are mainly in the south of
England, but they have been seen in America, Canada, Australia, New
Zealand, Peru — all over the world to a greater or lesser degree. Our
planet, like all planets, has a magnetic field; its magnetic energy
travels in lines and criss-crosses, and where these lines cross is
formed, eventually, a vortex, a force centre. The space people, in
making the crop circles, are replicating on the dense-physical plane
these magnetic vortices in our planetary magnetic field. So there is
the planetary magnetic field on its own level, and then a physical
plane counterpart of that, which is being replicated by the space
people who are manning the UFOs, and creating the crop circles.
They have a great work in salvaging, in helping to restore the
equilibrium of our planet, in particular to nullify to some extent —
within the karmic law — the pollution of our planet. But for their
work in purifying our atmosphere, mopping up with implosion devices
the nuclear radiation which we pour into the atmosphere from our
nuclear reactors and experimentation, this world would be infinitely
more painful to live in
Above was excerpted from this article:
The reality and work of the Space Brothers
http://www.share-international.org/archives/UFOs/space-bros-reality.htm
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Most people believe what they are told, that there is no life on Venus
or the other planets, but the spaceships, the UFOs, have been seen by
thousands of people for years, mainly from Mars and Venus, which are
the nearest planets to us. The governments of the world for over 60
years have denied the existence of UFOs, which indeed in growing
numbers are active in our skies. The governments have hoodwinked the
public for their own reasons, probably mixed. They have sought to deny
the existence of UFOs, flying saucers, whereas people who have seen
them know that they are always present in our skies. The curious thing
is that while denying the existence of UFOs they have sought to
denigrate occupants of these 'non-existent' craft as malicious,
threatening the wellbeing of humanity.
What is the motive for this curious non-exposure of a tremendous
event? The governments would say they want to avoid panic but beneath
that is the unacknowledged fear of loss of control and power, which a
welcoming approach to the Space Brothers would ensure. They know that
if humanity knew that the spacecraft in our skies were not 'aliens'
but were here to aid and alleviate the suffering of humanity on this
planet, and with their obviously far more advanced technology, people
would demand that they are openly welcomed and their superior teaching
made available to them.
Earth scientists deny the existence of any form of life on Mars and
Venus and the other planets of the system. This is the result of their
inadequate understanding of the true range of matter. These scientists
acknowledge three planes – solid, liquid and gaseous physical – above
which, they have not the technology to measure. Therefore they believe
'more' does not exist, yet the Masters and all students of esotericism
know that there are four further states of matter above gas, the
etheric planes of matter. It is on the etheric planes that can be
found 'life' on our sister planets, from Mars, on the lowest etheric
level, up to extraordinarily advanced planets like Vulcan, Venus,
Jupiter, Saturn, and planets like Mercury, Uranus and Neptune. Venus,
the alter ego of Earth, is in the last of its seven 'rounds' or
incarnations (equivalent to our incarnational experiences), while
Vulcan is completely perfected.
Spacecraft from these planets create the crop circles of which the
largest number are seen in Wiltshire, the southwest of England,
because Maitreya is in London. These crop circles are the 'calling
cards' of the people who man the UFOs, to acknowledge
ore asphyxiated. So we owe the Space Brothers a tremendous debt.
Maitreya when asked will talk about the Space Brothers. They are our
brothers and sisters of our own planetary system. We work together,
the Hierarchy of all the planets work together in a kind of
interplanetary parliament.
They are also engaged in a tremendous work of replicating on the
surface of our planet the grid of our magnetic field. This is
preparing the way for the 'science of light' which is the technology
of the future. This will give us total, unlimited, safe power for all
our needs. It is obvious, therefore, that far from being 'alien',
malicious monsters to be feared, as they have often been presented to
the public, the Space Brothers are on a spiritual mission to help in
every way possible within the Laws of Karma to maintain the stability
and future health of Planet Earth.
Excerpted from Questions and Answers in the Nov 2009 issue of Share
International
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Very soon everyone will know... that the space brothers are humans
like us, only thousands of years more evolved than we are. They have
solved many of the same problems that confront us now, thousands of
years ago. They will help us to the extent that we let them. They are
like Gods compared to us. Unconditional love and harmlessness are two
characteristics that both Benjamin Creme and George Adamski have used
to describe Them.
The truth is going to set mankind free - free from the horrors created
by corrupt leadership - free from war, poverty, hunger, environmental
degradation, unemployment, etc...
The insanely greedy billionaires who control our military,
politicians, and national media do not want to change the world. They
like it as it is, and are hiding the information about civilizations
that are thousands of years ahead of ours, who will eventually help
us eliminate environmental degradation, war, and poverty.
Soon the ruling elite and war profiteers will be overwhelmed and
their attempts to hide the truth will fail. The truth that they hide
will set us free - forever from the clutches of their corrupt and
incompetent politicians and all the needless misery that they cause
via war and poverty.
Just in case you didn't know...
The reasons for the [UFO] secrecy are simple: The inertia of highly
classified [government] programs, embarrassment over past illegal
actions taken to enforce secrecy, and the fact that the energy and
propulsion systems behind the mysterious UFO objects have been studied
and fully understood... and would spell the end for oil, gas, coal and
other conventional forms of power - and with that, the end of the
current oil-based geopolitical order and economy....
The full disclosure of the facts will enable humanity to attain a
sustainable civilization without global warming or the need for oil.
Dr. Steven Greer has put together a group called "the disclosure
project" with recorded testimoney from over 400 former gov't (military
& intelligence) employees who all state that they've seen, heard,
UFO's and been told to shut up about it, and that they are absolutely
willing to testify to congress about it. Their testimony can easily be
found on youtube.com - after searching on "disclosure project".
Dr. Greer's website is here: http://www.DisclosureProject.org/
Furthermore/ most importantly...
The UFOs are 100% related to the appearance of an immeasurably great
and noble person prophesied by all the world's great religions - and
known by a multitude of names.
He will soon present His credentials to an amazed world and inspire us
to rebuild the world so that it will become a great place for
everyone. He will NOT endorse any particular religion over any other.
Believe it or not Details about Him and His mission:
http://www.Share-International.org
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May also be of use/interest:
UFOs FAQs: Benjamin Creme
http://share-international.org/archives/UFOs/faq_UFOs.htm
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This has some very interesting information on a huge range of topics:
Forbidden Knowledge TV
Daily videos from the edges of science
http://www.forbiddenknowledgetv.com/
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Now is the time for scientists and other forward thinking people to
seek discoveries and advancements for the good of the human family.
The time for the brightest scientists to seek discoveries for
personal gain has past. The best ideas/results will come to those who
are dedicated to the advancement of our civilization.
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Was it not the so-called professed authorities in times gone by, as
they are today, who criticized and disparaged everything proposed for
the betterment of man? The kind of proof demanded was premature and
could not in wisdom be given. But time and patience finally
vindicated those who brought forth the ideas. Humanity is that much
better off today because of them—not because of the skeptics! It is no
different today..." George Adamski
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"...every day I remind myself that my inner and outer life depend on
the labors of other men, living and dead, and that I must exert
myself in order to give in the same measure as I have received and am
still receiving." Albert Einstein
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Thus it happens in matters of state; for knowing afar off (which
it is only given a prudent man to do) the evils that are brewing,
they are easily cured. But when, for want of such knowledge, they
are allowed to grow until everyone can recognize them, there is no
longer any remedy to be found.
(The Prince, Niccolo Machiavelli [1469-1527])
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While you here do snoring lie,
Open-eyed conspiracy
His time doth take.
(The Tempest; Ariel at II, i)
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"Maitreya is awaiting the best timing to go public... We think... we
can go on in the old ways... more competition, more greed... It is not
so any longer; it does not work. If two-thirds of the world's
population are living in poverty then the economic system does not
work. If we think that they will go on without asking that it work for
them, then we are sorely out of step with reality. Maitreya will make
that clear." Benjamin Creme
"Without sharing there can be no justice;
without justice there can be no peace;
without peace there can be no future...
Man must change or die.
There is no other course."
Maitreya, the World Teacher
http://www.share-international.org
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"When I despair, I remember that all through history the ways of truth
and love have always won. There have been tyrants, and murderers, and
for a time they can seem invincible, but in the end they always fall.
Think of it ...always." - Mahatma Gandhi
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"Almost anything you do [to help others] will seem insignificant,
but it's very important that you do it."
Mahatma Gandi
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TOPIC: Kathy Scott Perry 8:30p Sat Nothing to fear / Dr David Kamnitzer Sun8pm
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Tues, Aug 30 2011 9:04 pm
From: "Lady Azure, Baroness of the North Pole"
One Mind Foundation wrote:
> Next Week, September 1, Registration fee for ACIM Conference goes up
> to $449
Sept, does not Pay Dues, to Clanna!
Like it or not, "I", AM!
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