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Today's topics:
* Master Plan: The Road Ahead - 2 messages, 2 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.consciousness.mysticism/t/c7411e865e1e008c?hl=en
* True Kabbalah - 14 messages, 6 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.consciousness.mysticism/t/4a0757047731f5fc?hl=en
* Reasons to Celebrate the Impending Collapse of the Corrupt Global Economic
System - 7 messages, 4 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.consciousness.mysticism/t/6865ab1385f5d7e8?hl=en
* jAP JI - Stanza 16 - 1 messages, 1 author
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* judgment night - 1 messages, 1 author
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TOPIC: Master Plan: The Road Ahead
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Wed, Aug 17 2011 10:39 pm
From: "Lady Azure, Baroness of the North Pole"
KEEP your "BOTS" to yourself!
Reverend Al wrote:
> RyFri wrote:
>
> > Ummm... You ARE way behind, aren't you? There are actually TWO
> > commercially manufactured road legal flying cars available to the
> > public. Run out and get yourself one!
>
> Not quite yet. THe Moller Skycar isn't actually available and neither is the
> Terrafugia Transition actually avaible.
>
> > They at e quite expensive and as
> > opposed to be hover craft (which have been around for decades) these
> > are basically cars with fold up wings. Don't believe? Again, look it
> > up. Really people! Read the news! Stay up to date! It takes about 30
> > min. a day with your iphone.
>
> Perhaps you should rethink things and use an Android!
== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Thurs, Aug 18 2011 9:27 am
From: RyFri
You are probably right about the Android, but I got the iPhone 4 after
owning the HTC (which I hated). Tech is improving pretty fast. The old
iPhone doesn't let me type as fast as the HTC, because the keyboard is
the touch screen. As far as the flying cars, they ARE taking orders. I
was personally intending to purchase a Chevy Volt, until I recently
heard that a battery maker just found a way to make Li batteries hold
way more power (thereby improving the technology far beyond what is
presently in the Volt. The new batteries should be out in a few years.
Once again the Volt is just another product that is out before the
technology has quite reached that point. Remember the old touch screen
laptops? Or the blackberries that weren't phones, just note takers?
They didn't sell very well, but now similar technology repackaged in
slimmer cases is hard to keep in stock.
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TOPIC: True Kabbalah
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.consciousness.mysticism/t/4a0757047731f5fc?hl=en
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== 1 of 14 ==
Date: Thurs, Aug 18 2011 6:34 am
From: Absorbed
On Wed, 17 Aug 2011 21:43:31 -0700 (PDT), Tom wrote:
> On Aug 17, 8:15 pm, RyFri <ryanmartinfri...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> After having been in academia for 8 years, I realized that most of the
>> people have no common sense there and/or just follow each other like
>> puppies. The kabballah is something that has turned up at every corner
>> of my recent. Studies, from quantum physics to theosophy to the E8
>> theory and mathematics. To learn a little about it, I bought a book
>> called Kabballah for the layman, by Dr. Philip Berg. Has anyone read
>> this? It seemed pretty straight forward. Is this reccommended by
>> anyone? I just got volume I.
>
> I haven't read the book but I have heard of "Dr" Philip S Berg. It
> turns out that his claims to a doctorate are spurious. His Kabbalah
> Centre in Los Angeles came to prominence with the recruitment of the
> singer Madonna. However, the relationship turned sour when her
> "Raising Malawi" charity scandal erupted and it was revealed that the
> Kabbalah Centre was deeply involved in the multi-million dollar
> shenanigans.
>
> http://www.thedailybeast.com/newsweek/2011/04/03/madonna-s-malawi-disaster.html
>
> Berg's organization sells "Kabbalah Water" that allegedly cures
> cancer, red string that supposedly protected one from the "evil eye",
> special kabbalistic astrological horoscopes, and so forth, all for
> wildly high prices. One of their gags is to sell you a copy of the
> Zohar in Aramaic at about a 500% mark-up and to tell you you don't
> need to learn Aramaic in order to learn Kabbalah from it. All you
> have to do is scan the pages and the esoteric meanings will magically
> pop into your head. And cure all your illnesses, too.
>
> He's a typical occult huckster. Let the buyer beware.
Thanks for the "heads up" Tom-Christ, should I destroy the one that you
sent me?
--
I am absorbed with Tom and I am proudly Tom's sockpuppet. Tom-Christ
is within me.
== 2 of 14 ==
Date: Thurs, Aug 18 2011 6:53 am
From: Tom
On Thu, 18 Aug 2011 06:02:29 -0700 (PDT), Paul Hume wrote:
> Berg's work is an atrocious dumbing down of kabbalah developed for
> marketing. I would say he is trying to be the L. Ron Hubbard of
> kabbalah.
>
> I would recommend a work called Path of Kabbalah, by David Sheinkin,
> who I believe is a physicist as well as a kabbalist (unless it was
> his teacher who was a physicist). If your interest in relationships
> between certain aspects of the kabbalah and modern physics, this work
> discusses some of those connections.
>
> The works of Aryeh Kaplan, Moishe Idel, and Gershom Sholem are highly
> regarded. Kaplan is the most eloquent on the mystical doctrine and
> practice, Sholem on the history and philosophical patterns, and Idel
> is somewhere in between the two.
Sheinkin is a joke and anyone who reads him is a joke vicariously. I'm
sure you could convince yourself of it if you wanted to. You've
convinced yourself of lots sillier shit than that. Maybe not.
Lots of things happen all by themselves. Earthquakes. Wind. Air. The
turning of the earth as it orbits the sun. And plenty more. These
things happen without anybody doing anything and despite anything
anyone can do. That's Sheinkin's line of intellectual harbingdasher.
How did it all start with Sheinkin? I don't know. And neither do you.
Even if you did, you'd be considered a thoughtless moron so who the
shit would care?
== 3 of 14 ==
Date: Thurs, Aug 18 2011 6:57 am
From: Tom
On Thu, 18 Aug 2011 09:34:25 -0400, Absorbed wrote:
> On Wed, 17 Aug 2011 21:43:31 -0700 (PDT), Tom wrote:
>
>> On Aug 17, 8:15 pm, RyFri <ryanmartinfri...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> After having been in academia for 8 years, I realized that most of the
>>> people have no common sense there and/or just follow each other like
>>> puppies. The kabballah is something that has turned up at every corner
>>> of my recent. Studies, from quantum physics to theosophy to the E8
>>> theory and mathematics. To learn a little about it, I bought a book
>>> called Kabballah for the layman, by Dr. Philip Berg. Has anyone read
>>> this? It seemed pretty straight forward. Is this reccommended by
>>> anyone? I just got volume I.
>>
>> I haven't read the book but I have heard of "Dr" Philip S Berg. It
>> turns out that his claims to a doctorate are spurious. His Kabbalah
>> Centre in Los Angeles came to prominence with the recruitment of the
>> singer Madonna. However, the relationship turned sour when her
>> "Raising Malawi" charity scandal erupted and it was revealed that the
>> Kabbalah Centre was deeply involved in the multi-million dollar
>> shenanigans.
>>
>> http://www.thedailybeast.com/newsweek/2011/04/03/madonna-s-malawi-disaster.html
>>
>> Berg's organization sells "Kabbalah Water" that allegedly cures
>> cancer, red string that supposedly protected one from the "evil eye",
>> special kabbalistic astrological horoscopes, and so forth, all for
>> wildly high prices. One of their gags is to sell you a copy of the
>> Zohar in Aramaic at about a 500% mark-up and to tell you you don't
>> need to learn Aramaic in order to learn Kabbalah from it. All you
>> have to do is scan the pages and the esoteric meanings will magically
>> pop into your head. And cure all your illnesses, too.
>>
>> He's a typical occult huckster. Let the buyer beware.
>
> Thanks for the "heads up" Tom-Christ, should I destroy the one that you
> sent me?
No keep it and use it for an eclectic doorstop of fire-fodder for those
chillingly vapid equinoxi.
== 4 of 14 ==
Date: Thurs, Aug 18 2011 6:57 am
From: Absorbed
On Thu, 18 Aug 2011 09:53:12 -0400, Tom wrote:
> On Thu, 18 Aug 2011 06:02:29 -0700 (PDT), Paul Hume wrote:
>
>> Berg's work is an atrocious dumbing down of kabbalah developed for
>> marketing. I would say he is trying to be the L. Ron Hubbard of
>> kabbalah.
>>
>> I would recommend a work called Path of Kabbalah, by David Sheinkin,
>> who I believe is a physicist as well as a kabbalist (unless it was
>> his teacher who was a physicist). If your interest in relationships
>> between certain aspects of the kabbalah and modern physics, this work
>> discusses some of those connections.
>>
>> The works of Aryeh Kaplan, Moishe Idel, and Gershom Sholem are highly
>> regarded. Kaplan is the most eloquent on the mystical doctrine and
>> practice, Sholem on the history and philosophical patterns, and Idel
>> is somewhere in between the two.
>
> Sheinkin is a joke and anyone who reads him is a joke vicariously. I'm
> sure you could convince yourself of it if you wanted to. You've
> convinced yourself of lots sillier shit than that. Maybe not.
>
> Lots of things happen all by themselves. Earthquakes. Wind. Air. The
> turning of the earth as it orbits the sun. And plenty more. These
> things happen without anybody doing anything and despite anything
> anyone can do. That's Sheinkin's line of intellectual harbingdasher.
>
> How did it all start with Sheinkin? I don't know. And neither do you.
> Even if you did, you'd be considered a thoughtless moron so who the
> shit would care?
Agreed. To all!
--
I am absorbed with Tom and I am proudly Tom's sockpuppet. Tom-Christ
is within me.
== 5 of 14 ==
Date: Thurs, Aug 18 2011 7:08 am
From: Dennes De Mennes
In article <22a63835-f7d6-4cf9-8771-73420345cf15
@i9g2000yqk.googlegroups.com>, ryanmartinfriend@gmail.com says...
>
> After having been in academia for 8 years, I realized that most of the
> people have no common sense there and/or just follow each other like
> puppies. The kabballah is something that has turned up at every corner
> of my recent. Studies, from quantum physics to theosophy to the E8
> theory and mathematics. To learn a little about it, I bought a book
> called Kabballah for the layman, by Dr. Philip Berg. Has anyone read
> this? It seemed pretty straight forward. Is this reccommended by
> anyone? I just got volume I.
i recommend you go to kabbalah.info and laitman.com, that's the real
stuff...
== 6 of 14 ==
Date: Thurs, Aug 18 2011 7:27 am
From: Tom
On Wed, 17 Aug 2011 18:38:00 +0200, Bassos wrote:
> Heh
*SHADDUP*
== 7 of 14 ==
Date: Thurs, Aug 18 2011 8:00 am
From: Dennes De Mennes
In article <j2j7fs$jk3$1@news.mixmin.net>, dantomell@comcast.net says...
>
> On Wed, 17 Aug 2011 18:38:00 +0200, Bassos wrote:
>
> > Heh
>
> *SHADDUP*
all of you dumbasses, get off this thread, you're making it stupid...
== 8 of 14 ==
Date: Thurs, Aug 18 2011 8:45 am
From: Absorbed
On Thu, 18 Aug 2011 07:40:47 -0700 (PDT), Tom wrote:
> On Aug 18, 6:02 am, Paul Hume <paulh...@verizon.net> wrote:
>> Berg's work is an atrocious dumbing down of kabbalah developed for marketing.
>
> So say some of the more traditional Jewish kabbalists, but then again,
> they say the same thing about the "hermetic kabbalah" too.
>
> But let's put the shoe on the other foot for a minute. How about...
>
> The kabbalah is an atrocious deconstruction of the Torah, embuing the
> very letters of the text with meanings never intended by the original
> authors.
Er, could you translate?
>> I would recommend a work called Path of Kabbalah, by David Sheinkin, who I believe is a physicist as well as a kabbalist (unless it was his teacher who was a physicist).
>
> Dr. Sheinkin is a psychiatrist. His teacher was the esteemed orthodox
> Jewish scholar Aryeh Kaplan, who did indeed have a Master's degree in
> physics.
>
>> The works of Aryeh Kaplan, Moishe Idel, and Gershom Sholem are highly regarded. Kaplan is the most eloquent on the mystical doctrine and practice, Sholem on the history and philosophical patterns, and Idel is somewhere in between the two.
>
> All excellent recommendations.
Your Word is all I need!
--
I am absorbed with Tom and I am proudly Tom's sockpuppet. Tom-Christ
is within me.
== 9 of 14 ==
Date: Thurs, Aug 18 2011 8:47 am
From: Tom
On Thu, 18 Aug 2011 11:45:07 -0400, Absorbed wrote:
> On Thu, 18 Aug 2011 07:40:47 -0700 (PDT), Tom wrote:
>
>> On Aug 18, 6:02 am, Paul Hume <paulh...@verizon.net> wrote:
>>> Berg's work is an atrocious dumbing down of kabbalah developed for marketing.
>>
>> So say some of the more traditional Jewish kabbalists, but then again,
>> they say the same thing about the "hermetic kabbalah" too.
>>
>> But let's put the shoe on the other foot for a minute. How about...
>>
>> The kabbalah is an atrocious deconstruction of the Torah, embuing the
>> very letters of the text with meanings never intended by the original
>> authors.
>
> Er, could you translate?
The kabbalah is a pre-modernist sacrum which was heartily deprecated by
pseudo-Jewish retractions.
> Your Word is all I need!
Now you got it. Beware.
== 10 of 14 ==
Date: Thurs, Aug 18 2011 2:32 pm
From: Tom
On Tue, 16 Aug 2011 20:51:19 -0700 (PDT), Tom wrote:
> On Aug 16, 7:50 pm, Dennes De Mennes <jesucris...@netscape.net> wrote:
>> Kabbalah is the science of our internality. All it does is it takes
>> regular religious concepts to a whole new level, or deeper revelation of
>> the forces of Nature, which they call 'the Creator'. It is not a person,
>> it's just a steady force of goodness, if you will. It only does good, to
>> the creatures, wanting their eventual independence and perfection. In
>> other words, the Creator shattered the original soul, Adam, to give it
>> its 'plan of development', so that it now consciously makes its way back
>> to the original coupling with the Light. The soul was a vessel that
>> received the light perfectly, but it just didn't know it until it went
>> through the shattering, etc. Adam was not to eat of the Tree of
>> Knowledge, because he could only handle little desires at a time, and
>> not hard-core ones which he would not use properly in order to bestow
>> pleasure to the giver but for selfish egoistic reasons, so it fell, and
>> so it ended in the corporeal world (this was all planned, by the way),
>> or state of complete concealment of the Light. Now first a piece of the
>> broken soul becomes aware that there is a higher state as if by chance.
>> Someone just mentions Kabbalah to him or her somehow and he begins the
>> ascent back to being equal and opposite to the Creator, fulfilling its
>> role of reception for one, and also being completely similar to Him, by
>> being a bestower, also, in losing itself in the idea of the group (all
>> the spiritual thoughts and desires are given there). Before correction
>> we have no idea of what bestowal is on the spiritual level. This only
>> happens as the Light works in us as we study and join other Kabbalists
>> and create a 'common vessel' of reception for the Light. Any corporeal
>> act is not true bestowal, it is always done egoistically. On our own we
>> would stay in egoism, but the Light must enter into us through the
>> group, the Rav (teacher) and the books, and slowly change our thought
>> behind any action from 'how can I get the most benefit for myself' to
>> 'how can I bestow pleasure to the Creator' and that's done through the
>> formula of 'love thy neighbor as thyself', and that again doesn't mean
>> neighbors in corporeality but kabbalists studying in a group with the
>> same desire, that are building a common vessel and revealing the Creator
>> through their connection. The only time that the Creator is revealed and
>> our internality is actually affected in any way. This is how the Zohar
>> was written, the most important Kabbalist book. Ten kabbalists got
>> together and manifested the Light and all their experiences on attaining
>> the upper realm finally were put down to paper and so became like a map
>> for anyone in our day to climb up the ladder back to the state of
>> adhesion but just conscious this time, an act of our free will done
>> against our Nature. By Nature we would remain egoistic, and we would be
>> developed by 'blows of Nature' or 'the path of suffering' and would take
>> many lifetimes, rather than one lifetime which can be achievable through
>> Kabbalah.
>
> That's too big a mouthful of catechism to chew properly. If you try
> to swallow it all at once, you'll choke.
>
> Take smaller bites and do a lot more chewing.
>
> Let's start with "science of internality". It's all you. It isn't
> something external to you. So when you study Kabbalah, you are
> mapping your consciousness, but the map, as Korzybski wisely wrote, is
> not the territory. The sephiroth and the paths and the letters and
> the numbers are all descriptive metaphors used to allow us to make
> some kind of sense out of a huge number of largely invisible processes
> by which our nervous systems interact with the world around us. If
> you forget that, the living metaphors of Kabbalah are nothing but
> empty shells and all you end up with is, as the Wizard of Oz put it, a
> "clattering collection of caliginous junk".
Poorly done forgeries are no more trouble than any other kind of
mutated-forgery estrainged via My Troll. They're just noise from
someone who not only has nothing to communicate to me by himself but
who also resents others communicating to me and so attempts to disrupt
it by owning the waves which contribute to the pandemonium which always
surrounds me controversially, eternally, and foreverally.
I've been around for years and years dealing with trolls of all kinds,
including quasi-compulsive frauds like My Troll. It doesn't upset me
when someone acts stupidly, nay, I have seen the before. I've seen it
all before and am confident I'll see more of it in the future.
I am unconcerned about "reputation", either. Bah! What take ye from a
King, Troll?
I don't think he has a choice in this matter. He *is* a total idiot.
That's why he tries to misrepresent other people's words and ideas
instead of making a case for his own. He can't compete as himself in
the arena of ideas because he doesn't actually have any ideas that are
in any way able to withstand my rectal examination.
Such pathetic little attempts at japery do seem to be the best you can
muster. No, chum, the hard truth is that you *couldn't* be more
absorbed by yourself.
== 11 of 14 ==
Date: Thurs, Aug 18 2011 2:34 pm
From: Tom
On Thu, 18 Aug 2011 07:40:47 -0700 (PDT), Tom wrote:
> On Aug 18, 6:02�am, Paul Hume <paulh...@verizon.net> wrote:
>> Berg's work is an atrocious dumbing down of kabbalah developed for marketing.
>
> So say some of the more traditional Jewish kabbalists, but then again,
> they say the same thing about the "hermetic kabbalah" too.
>
> But let's put the shoe on the other foot for a minute. How about...
>
> The kabbalah is an atrocious deconstruction of the Torah, embuing the
> very letters of the text with meanings never intended by the original
> authors.
>
>> I would recommend a work called Path of Kabbalah, by David Sheinkin, who I believe is a physicist as well as a kabbalist (unless it was his teacher who was a physicist).
>
> Dr. Sheinkin is a psychiatrist. His teacher was the esteemed orthodox
> Jewish scholar Aryeh Kaplan, who did indeed have a Master's degree in
> physics.
>
>> The works of Aryeh Kaplan, Moishe Idel, and Gershom Sholem are highly regarded. Kaplan is the most eloquent on the mystical doctrine and practice, Sholem on the history and philosophical patterns, and Idel is somewhere in between the two.
>
> All excellent recommendations.
Poorly done forgeries are no more trouble than any other kind of
mutated-forgery estrainged via My Troll. They're just noise from
someone who not only has nothing to communicate to me by himself but
who also resents others communicating to me and so attempts to disrupt
it by owning the waves which contribute to the pandemonium which always
surrounds me controversially, eternally, and foreverally.
I've been around for years and years dealing with trolls of all kinds,
including quasi-compulsive frauds like My Troll. It doesn't upset me
when someone acts stupidly, nay, I have seen the before. I've seen it
all before and am confident I'll see more of it in the future.
I am unconcerned about "reputation", either. Bah! What take ye from a
King, Troll?
I don't think he has a choice in this matter. He *is* a total idiot.
That's why he tries to misrepresent other people's words and ideas
instead of making a case for his own. He can't compete as himself in
the arena of ideas because he doesn't actually have any ideas that are
in any way able to withstand my rectal examination.
Such pathetic little attempts at japery do seem to be the best you can
muster. No, chum, the hard truth is that you *couldn't* be more
absorbed by yourself.
== 12 of 14 ==
Date: Thurs, Aug 18 2011 2:26 pm
From: RyFri
Thank you, Tom. I got it at a used book store. Now I know why it might
have been there. I will read it and summarily discard it. Do you
recommend any books which provide a good foundation to start learning
about kabbalah? I would be interested in hearing about any.
== 13 of 14 ==
Date: Thurs, Aug 18 2011 4:35 pm
From: Tom
On Aug 18, 2:26 pm, RyFri <ryanmartinfri...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Thank you, Tom. I got it at a used book store. Now I know why it might
> have been there. I will read it and summarily discard it. Do you
> recommend any books which provide a good foundation to start learning
> about kabbalah? I would be interested in hearing about any.
For folks who aren't focused exclusively on orthodox Judeaism, a good
foundation can be found by visiting the following web site:
http://www.digital-brilliance.com/index.php
I don't think you should discard the book you found, though.
Interesting and insightful ideas can be gotten even from the most
dubious of sources. Just don't place a lot of trust in it as
mainstream kabbalistic thought.
== 14 of 14 ==
Date: Thurs, Aug 18 2011 4:54 pm
From: Absorbed
On Thu, 18 Aug 2011 16:35:08 -0700 (PDT), Tom wrote:
> On Aug 18, 2:26 pm, RyFri <ryanmartinfri...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Thank you, Tom. I got it at a used book store. Now I know why it might
>> have been there. I will read it and summarily discard it. Do you
>> recommend any books which provide a good foundation to start learning
>> about kabbalah? I would be interested in hearing about any.
>
> For folks who aren't focused exclusively on orthodox Judeaism, a good
> foundation can be found by visiting the following web site:
>
> http://www.digital-brilliance.com/index.php
>
> I don't think you should discard the book you found, though.
> Interesting and insightful ideas can be gotten even from the most
> dubious of sources. Just don't place a lot of trust in it as
> mainstream kabbalistic thought.
Master Tom, I already asked that question!
--
I am absorbed with Tom and I am proudly Tom's sockpuppet. Tom-Christ
is within me.
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TOPIC: Reasons to Celebrate the Impending Collapse of the Corrupt Global
Economic System
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.consciousness.mysticism/t/6865ab1385f5d7e8?hl=en
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== 1 of 7 ==
Date: Thurs, Aug 18 2011 9:24 am
From: "MichaelTurnersfs@yahoo.com"
> Something YOU, know "NOTHING" of!
> Claighma Solaris is "BEYOND YOUR GRASP"!
> You love playing Language Nazi, yet can't understand the ENGLISH, You Insult, lil
> Anglie!
> Bheares of the Cave are not Fur Bearing Quadrapeds, rather "CHILDERN/DESCENDANTS" of
> the "CAVE"!
> Something Germanic "PRETENDERS", "ARE NOT"!
"can't understand the ENGLISH"??? LOL! Well, it's true that the
English do have a bit of an accent which takes getting used to. But
they are still quite understandable. We don't have any problem with
Monty Python, Faulty Towers, Keeping Up Appearances, etc.
Now, as far as communicating clearly and cogently in the English
languages goes . . Honey, once you are back on your meds, and able to
write a coherent sentence, then we can talk. :)
== 2 of 7 ==
Date: Thurs, Aug 18 2011 9:25 am
From: "MichaelTurnersfs@yahoo.com"
> > Just because some watery tart lobbed a sword at you doesn't make you a
> > king!
>
> Lake is such a Whip!
> They RUN at the First sign of a Fight!
> That is why ROME, made LUGH, MARS!
> Nasty CRONES, there just "BOYS WHO WEAR SKIRTS" anyway!
Apparently, sweetie, you are unfamiliar with Monty Python. Why don't
you rent "Monty Python and the Holy Grail" and watch it when your not
busy with Ru Paul auditions. ;)
== 3 of 7 ==
Date: Thurs, Aug 18 2011 9:35 am
From: Bruce Morgen
"Lady Azure, Baroness of the North Pole" <laddie'o'lugh@gall's.org> wrote:
>
>
>Bruce Morgen wrote:
>
>> "Lady Azure, Baroness of the North Pole" <laddie'o'lugh@gall's.org> wrote:
>>
>> >KEWL, cause "LIKE IT, or NOT", "I" am Pendragon.
>> >The "GREAT BEAR/Rampant Lion"!
>> >"THE", "Chosen", "Left Hand", of "GOD"!
>>
>> Of course you are, no
>> doubt whatsoever.
>
>RIGHT!!!!
>It is MY NAME, in the Legends, My FAMILY TREE they FOLLOW, I am "THE", The
>Descendant, THE 6, born of The House of 6, Leaders of the Tribes of the 6, and
>God Sealed the Deal with a Hickey on my Right Forearm TO PROVE IT!
>WHO, the FUCK, are YOU???
>
Nothing -- at least nothing
you are likely to undestand
given your current state of
profound perceptual fugue.
Let's leave it at that,
shall we?
== 4 of 7 ==
Date: Thurs, Aug 18 2011 9:40 am
From: "MichaelTurnersfs@yahoo.com"
On Aug 18, 9:35 am, Bruce Morgen <edi...@juno.com> wrote:
> "Lady Azure, Baroness of the North Pole" <laddie'o'lugh@gall's.org> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> >Bruce Morgen wrote:
>
> >> "Lady Azure, Baroness of the North Pole" <laddie'o'lugh@gall's.org> wrote:
>
> >> >KEWL, cause "LIKE IT, or NOT", "I" am Pendragon.
> >> >The "GREAT BEAR/Rampant Lion"!
> >> >"THE", "Chosen", "Left Hand", of "GOD"!
>
> >> Of course you are, no
> >> doubt whatsoever.
>
> >RIGHT!!!!
> >It is MY NAME, in the Legends, My FAMILY TREE they FOLLOW, I am "THE", The
> >Descendant, THE 6, born of The House of 6, Leaders of the Tribes of the 6, and
> >God Sealed the Deal with a Hickey on my Right Forearm TO PROVE IT!
> >WHO, the FUCK, are YOU???
>
> Nothing -- at least nothing
> you are likely to undestand
> given your current state of
> profound perceptual fugue.
> Let's leave it at that,
> shall we?
Is that different from Walter White's fugue in Breaking Bad?
Good to see you, Bruce. How're you doing? You should drop me a line
on Facebook sometime. You can find the coordinates on my Jap Ji
post. :)
== 5 of 7 ==
Date: Thurs, Aug 18 2011 10:00 am
From: Bruce Morgen
"MichaelTurnersfs@yahoo.com" <MichaelTurnersfs@yahoo.com> wrote:
>On Aug 18, 9:35 am, Bruce Morgen <edi...@juno.com> wrote:
>> "Lady Azure, Baroness of the North Pole" <laddie'o'lugh@gall's.org> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> >Bruce Morgen wrote:
>>
>> >> "Lady Azure, Baroness of the North Pole" <laddie'o'lugh@gall's.org> wrote:
>>
>> >> >KEWL, cause "LIKE IT, or NOT", "I" am Pendragon.
>> >> >The "GREAT BEAR/Rampant Lion"!
>> >> >"THE", "Chosen", "Left Hand", of "GOD"!
>>
>> >> Of course you are, no
>> >> doubt whatsoever.
>>
>> >RIGHT!!!!
>> >It is MY NAME, in the Legends, My FAMILY TREE they FOLLOW, I am "THE", The
>> >Descendant, THE 6, born of The House of 6, Leaders of the Tribes of the 6, and
>> >God Sealed the Deal with a Hickey on my Right Forearm TO PROVE IT!
>> >WHO, the FUCK, are YOU???
>>
>> Nothing -- at least nothing
>> you are likely to undestand
>> given your current state of
>> profound perceptual fugue.
>> Let's leave it at that,
>> shall we?
>
>Is that different from Walter White's fugue in Breaking Bad?
>
>Good to see you, Bruce. How're you doing? You should drop me a line
>on Facebook sometime. You can find the coordinates on my Jap Ji
>post. :)
Fond greetings, Michaelji
-- should I ever choose to
participate in the "social
networking" world, I will
definitely look you up!
== 6 of 7 ==
Date: Thurs, Aug 18 2011 2:52 pm
From: YuleSee
On Fri, 12 Aug 2011 13:42:53 -0500, q4l <q4l@nomail.com> wrote:
>Everyone should get ready for some major, positive changes in the
>world. The important thing to bear in mind is that the collapse of the
>world's corrupt economic system is definitely a good thing. With each
>passing day, it grows more obvious that it is time to build a new
>world based upon the principles of justice, sustainability, and peace.
agree wholeheartedly!
The total collapse of the global economic system is something that we
can all look forward to. I can hardly wait! It is an inevitable
evolutionary development. It doesn't matter if people believe in
Maitreya or not. Belief or disbelief in Him is totally irrelevant to
what is happening.
The current system is sucking the life force out of the majority of
our (the human) family and is very similar to a cancerous tumor that
must be removed. From a global perspective, if 90 out of every 100 of
the people are struiggling to survive under the current system, while
ten out of every 100 of them are doing fine, then something is very
wrong. Part ot the problem is that the richest 10% control the news
media - and keep the slaves in the dark.
"The minority, the ruling class at present, has the schools and press,
usually the Church as well, under its thumb. This enables it to
organize and sway the emotions of the masses, and make its tool of
them." Albert Einstein
Out with the old and in with the new! Power to the people!
An excerpt from a collection of Q&As that a few people might enjoy -
if they want to know what to expect in the near future:
Q. Will the world stock market crash... initiate a period of extreme
economic hardships...?
A. The stock market crash... will obviously lead to changes. These
have been predicted to take the form of a reorientation of priorities
by governments around the world. Adequate food, housing, health care
and education, as universal rights, will become the aim. This can
hardly be called "hardship". To achieve this for all, of course, will
require a fairer distribution of the world's resources and therefore
some sacrifice on the part of the presently richer nations.
Q. Maitreya says market forces are 'blind', but current economic
theory simply points to the law of supply and demand, and present
thinking does equate this with freedom.
A. ...It is a question of where you stand initially: this is the basis
of your movement in response to supply and demand. One man will demand
'x' from life and his demand will be met quickly, with little
expenditure of energy. Another demands 'x' plus other factors, and a
greater amount of energy is required to fulfill his needs. People make
different demands on the law of supply. Some demand more of life,
command greater resources, and if these are met it can only be at the
expense of those who demand, or can demand, but little. This is the
blindness of market forces, which take no account of differences in
status (economic, social or other) of those who make the demands.
Hence the operation of these forces contains inbuilt inequality; they
are intrinsically divisive. This is why Maitreya calls them
''satanic.'' If everybody started from the same point, there might be
some logic to them. But nobody does. You already have rich and poor
people, and rich and poor nations.
Q. You say that the present economic and financial order is going to
break down - what do we do? Do I take my money out tomorrow?
A. What we do is share the resources of the world. The major gambling
in the world is in currency and in 'futures'. The value of any
currency bears little relation to the industrial base of the country
to which it belongs. This is true for all the developed nations. If
you have bonds and shares and do the gambling yourself. If that is
what you do, my advice is: "Get out tomorrow!" But if you simply have
your wages on a weekly or monthly or yearly basis in the bank, you are
going to survive in the normal way, but your life will change because
the life of every one will change. We in the developed world cannot
any longer continue to destroy the resources of the world - they are
finite. If we want our children to live half-decent lives we have to
preserve these resources. That means we have to create a sustainable
economy - which is perfectly possible. For years, groups throughout
the world have been advocating such an economy. There are various
measures by which this can be done - mainly a simplification of our
living habits and styles.
Q. What would an appropriate socio-economic system for the coming age
look like?
A. To my mind it would have to reflect the inner connectedness of
people with one another and with the planet. A sustainable sufficiency
would have to replace the present system of over-production,
competition and waste. Therefore, interdependence and co-operation,
social justice, freedom and sharing would be the keynotes of a viable
spiritually-based system. It would also have to take account of, and
provide opportunities for, man's individual initiative and creative
enterprise but not at the expense of social justice and group good.
Maitreya, through His associate, has said that the unification of
Germany is the symbol of this future social system: not capitalism
versus communism, but social democracy or democratic socialism with
full participation of all peoples in their own government. Housewives,
doctors, artists, teachers, etc, would play their full part in
government of the people, for the people, by the people; something
never achieved before, East or West.
Q. Can you give us some idea of the economic transformation of our
lives which will take place?
A. The redistribution of resources is the problem which is at the
heart of the economic and, indeed, the spiritual crisis overhanging
the world today. This spiritual crisis is focused in the political and
economic theatre. That is why Maitreya comes, in the first place, as a
political and economic teacher. Although his teaching is
non-religious, it is about the spiritual life, about right human
relationships. When we share the world's resources we take the first
step into solving the ills of the world, and the first step into our
divinity.
The method, as I understand it, will be a sophisticated form of barter
in which the nations pool their excess resources and redistribute them
fairly and justly according to need. Nothing will be imposed, it is up
to us, and many different ideas will be floated. As a basic minimum,
the aim is adequate, correct food, housing, health-care and education
for all as universal rights.
Q. How do you envisage the immediate aftermath of the Stock Market
Crash in the West ?
A. After the preliminary shock, the nations will meet together to
discuss the means of coping with the future in ordered fashion. Those
who have stood most emphatically behind the rule of market forces will
find themselves outvoted in the dispensation which will pertain, and
those advocating co-operation will gain the ascendancy. This will not
happen overnight. The process will be gradual, but will not be long
delayed. Already there are those in various governments who are
awaiting the time to act.
Q. Will the Stock Market Crash be followed by hyperinflation or
deflation?
A. Deflation
Q. When the stock market crashes (1) How can we protect ourselves from
the effect of a stock market crash? (2) Will there be a shortage of
food, medicine water, gas electricity, and jobs etc.? (3) will there
be pensions in the future?
A. (1) Everyone will be affected to a greater or lesser degree. The
best protection is not to invest in the stock marked. (2) Not if
properly organized and people do not hoard. Obviously, jobs in some
sectors will suffer, as now. (3) Yes.
Q. How will a financial breakdown of developed markets result in a
more fair distribution of wealth to under- developed countries (2) and
when?
A. (1) Maitreya will emerge as soon as the 'meltdown' is global and He
will advocate the principle of sharing as the only answer to our
economic problems. When we see this, we will put into place the plans
for redistribution of resources which already exist, waiting to be
implemented. This 'meltdown' of the markets is indeed now becoming
global in extent. (2) It is impossible to give a precise date but
everything points to very soon.
Q. What would an appropriate socio-economic system for the coming age
look like?
A. To my mind it would have to reflect the inner connectedness of
people with one another and with the planet. A sustainable sufficiency
would have to replace the present system of over-production,
competition and waste. Therefore, interdependence and co-operation,
social justice, freedom and sharing would be the keynotes of a viable
spiritually-based system. It would also have to take account of, and
provide opportunities for, man's individual initiative and creative
enterprise but not at the expense of social justice and group good.
This system would not be capitalism or communism, but social democracy
or democratic socialism with full participation of all peoples in
their own government. Housewives, doctors, artists, teachers, etc.,
would play their full part in government of the people, for the
people, by the people - something never achieved before, East or West.
Excerpt is from source:
http://www.share-international.org/archives/economics/faq_economic.htm
The poison of market forces
Interview with Benjamin Creme's Master
by Patricia Pitchon
http://www.share-international.org/archives/economics/ec_pppoison.htm
Interested In The New Economy? Read about the activists, visionaries,
and upstarts who are trying something new: an economy that works
within the carrying capacity of Mother Earth.
http://www.yesmagazine.org/issues/the-new-economy/theme-guide-the-new-economy
David Korten
Let Wall Street go and rebuild a Main Street economy.
http://www.yesmagazine.org/multimedia/yes-audio/life-in-a-real-wealth-economy
Listen to David Korten read an excerpt from chapter 13 in his book
(~11 mins) "Agenda for a New Economy"
http://www.yesmagazine.org/audio/guest/Korten_Chapter13.m3u
Frederick Kaufman's article 'The Food Bubble: How Wall Street starved
millions and got away with it', Harper's Magazine, July 2010.
http://frederickkaufman.typepad.com/files/the-food-bubble-pdf.pdf
Talk - David Korten - The Great Turning
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=33JC0lZ2xgA
Eric Sprott – The Price of Silver Should be $110 to $120 Today
http://kingworldnews.com/kingworldnews/KWN_DailyWeb/Entries/2011/8/18_Eric_Sprott_-_The_Price_of_Silver_Should_be_$110_to_$120_Today.html
With the Dow down almost 500 and gold surging above $1,825, today King
World News interviewed billionaire Eric Sprott, Chairman of the $10
billion strong Sprott Asset Management to get his take on the action
and what he is doing with his own money. When asked about his
charitable foundation selling gold and buying more physical silver
Sprott stated, "We've put a notice in that we are going to sell two
million shares of the Sprott Physical Trust, which would generate
something like $32 million of proceeds, and it's my intention to move
that into (physical) silver. As you know I have opined very often
that I think silver should trade at a 16/1 ratio to gold. That would
imply a price today of something like $110 or $120, (and today) it's
$40.
---------------------------------------------
PS1:
This is the best place that i've been able to find to buy small
amounts of silver (less than $1000 worth).
http://www.apmex.com/
===========================
The total collapse of the global economic systemt is sure to be
painful, but it is a very important step that will lead to the
creation of a new global economic system that serves the best
interests of the majority, rather than exploiting so many of them, and
ignoring the fact that 30,000 die each day of hunger, while tons of
food lays rotting in huge warehouses all over the world.
To sum it up, "the Kingdom will come. God's Will, will be done..."
Those who say that prayer, haven't been doing so in vain!
On Fri, 12 Aug 2011 13:42:53 -0500, q4l <q4l@nomail.com> wrote:
>The old corrupt world economic system is destined to totally
>collapse. If not this month, then it is sure to happen within the next
>few years. This is necessary & should most certainly be welcomed and
>celebrated by all people who despise corruption & long for a better
>world.
>
>The world's corrupt economic system is manipulated by men who are as
>addicted to making ever increasing sums of money, as are morbidly
>obese people (400 lbs and up) who like them, don't know when to push
>away from the table. It is a worn out relic of the past, that will
>suck large quantities of human blood until it is dead. It stands in
>the way of progress & peace. Our economic system can also be likened
>to an old man whose major organs have become infested with malignant
>tumors. He has been kept artificially "alive" and is now less human
>than a vegetable. His (it's) remaining days are clearly limited.
>
>As a growing number of people are noticing, the world economic system
>(like the status quo!) serves an elite minority, at the expense of
>the global majority. It is an unfair & cruel system that must be
>eliminated & replaced with a new system that serves the majority.
>
>The stock markets are manipulated by billionaires who have no sympathy
>for the people who are mercilessly exploited, who are forced to live
>on the edge. The total collapse is as necessary as was the fall of
>Rome & is as unavoidable as have been all the major social advances of
>the past century. Racism & Sexism are no longer acceptable. Extreme
>greed and political corruption are next in line to be rejected.
>
>The governments all over the world, are examples of the blind leading
>the blind. World leaders must grasp the fact that old solutions that
>have worked for them in the past, no longer work. Presently, the
>money men and politicians on both sides of the aisle are in denial,
>looking for ways to prop up the failed system again. Circumstances
>are sure to eventually force them to face reality.
>It's just a matter of time til that happens.
>
>Eventually, by popular demand, poverty & the unbridled greed that
>causes it, will be total eradicated from our world. Everyone's basic
>needs for food, shelter, healthcare, & education will gradually become
>global human rights. The end of political corruption, plus the
>growing awareness that humanity is one, and the industrial &
>technological advances of the past 100 years, will make the changes
>much easier than most imagine. In the light of a new awareness, we
>will solve our major problems & build a New World, where the human
>family becomes a peaceful, functional family.
>
>Everyone should get ready for some major, positive changes in the
>world. The important thing to bear in mind is that the collapse of the
>world's corrupt economic system is definitely a good thing. With each
>passing day, it grows more obvious that it is time to build a new
>world based upon the principles of justice, sustainability, and peace.
>
>========
>
>3 quotes from Benjamin Creme
>
>"...We think... we can go on in the old ways... more competition, more
>greed... It is not so... If two-thirds of the world's population are
>living in poverty then the economic system does not work. If we think
>that they will go on without asking that it work for them, then we are
>sorely out of step with reality. Maitreya will make that clear..."
>Benjamin Creme
>
>
>"When the people's voice is not heard, there will inevitably be
>revolution."
>
>"People will begin to understand that humanity is travelling together
>as one huge group, at different stages of the evolutionary journey. We
>are all travelling together along a path of evolution to something
>tremendous which our minds at present find difficult to truly
>understand."
>Benjamin Creme
>
>===========
>
>"Civil disobedience is not our problem. Our problem is civil
>obedience. Our problem is that numbers of people all over the world
>have obeyed the dictates of the leaders of their government and have
>gone to war, and millions have been killed because of this obedience.
>. . Our problem is that people are obedient all over the world in the
>face of poverty and starvation and stupidity, and war, and cruelty.
>Our problem is that people are obedient while the jails are full of
>petty thieves, and all the while the grand thieves are running the
>country. That's our problem."
>—The late, great, Howard Zinn
>
>===========
>
>"Without sharing there can be no justice; without justice there can be
>no peace; without peace there can be no future... Man must change
>or die. There is no other course."
>Maitreya, the World Teacher
>http://www.Share-International.org
>
>===========
>
>"The day that hunger is eradicated from the earth there will be the
>greatest spiritual explosion the world has ever known. Humanity
>cannot imagine the joy that will burst into the world on the day of
>that great revolution."
> Federico Garcia Lorca
>
>==========
>
>"The minority, the ruling class at present, has the schools and press,
>usually the Church as well, under its thumb. This enables it to
>organize and sway the emotions of the masses, and make its tool of
>them." Albert Einstein
>
>==========
>
>"So a peace will come again on earth, but a peace unlike aught known
>before. Then will the will-to-good flower forth as understanding, &
>understanding blossom as goodwill in men." The Tibetan
>
>=========================================
>
>Let the Truth Set (or keep) You Free -- From the lies of the ruling
>elite (the billionaires who treat the people like herds of stupid
>cows).
>
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>out!
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>
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>
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>---------------------------------------------
>
>Q. What is the most significant lie that the American people have been
>tricked into believing?
>
>A. That the military industrial complex exists to defend us. In truth,
>it exists to defend the pork barrels that have been put in place by
>extremely wealthy, greedy, men who simply can't get enough billions -
>- who don't care how much blood is on their money. They are men who
>go have their minions take all the necessary steps to perpetually
>create & agravate enemies, so that their pork barrels can be
>justified. They will stop at nothing to prevent peace and prolong war.
>
>---------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>"War is just a racket. A racket is best described, I believe, as
>something that is not what it seems to the majority of people. Only a
>small inside group knows what it is about. It is conducted for the
>benefit of the very few at the expense of the masses." (Major General
>Smedley Butler, USMC)
>
>----------------------------------------------
>
>Killing Hope: U.S. Military and C.I.A. Interventions since World War
>II is a history book on covert CIA operations and U.S. military
>interventions during the second half of the 20th century, written by
>former State Department employee William Blum.
>
>The book covers various US foreign policy ventures from just after
>World War II onward. Its basic premise is that the Soviet Union
>occupied the Warsaw Pact states only to better defend its
>territory[citation needed] and the American Cold War-era activities
>abroad were done with imperialist motives...
>
>Noam Chomsky called it "Far and away the best book on the topic."[1]
>Former CIA officer John Stockwell called it "The single most useful
>summary of CIA history."
>
>The 12 lines above were copied from:
>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Killing_Hope
>
>Mr. Blum has many chapters from the book online for free reading here:
>http://killinghope.org/
>
>--------
>excerpt from William Blum's june 28 newsletter:
>
>We came, we saw, we destroyed, we forgot
>
>An updated summary of the charming record of US foreign policy. Since
>the end of the Second World War, the United States of America has ...
>
> 1. Attempted to overthrow more than 50 governments, most of which
>were democratically-elected. 7
> 2. Attempted to suppress a populist or nationalist movement in 20
>countries. 8
> 3. Grossly interfered in democratic elections in at least 30
>countries. 9
> 4. Dropped bombs on the people of more than 30 countries. 10
> 5. Attempted to assassinate more than 50 foreign leaders. 11
>
>In total: Since 1945, the United States has carried out one or more of
>the above actions, on one or more occasions, in the following 69
>countries
>Excepted from:
>http://killinghope.org/bblum6/aer96.html
>
>
>William Blum on the recent Tragedy in Norway:
>"Amidst all the sadness and horror surrounding the massacre in Norway,
>we should not lose sight of the fact that "peaceful little Norway"
>participated in the bombing of Yugoslavia in 1999; has deployed troops
>in Iraq; has troops in Afghanistan; and has supplied warplanes for
>NATO's bombing of Libya. The teenagers of those countries who lost
>their lives to the US/NATO killing machine wanted to live to adulthood
>and old age as much as the teenagers in Norway. With all the
>condemnation of "extremism" we now hear in Norway and around the world
>we must ask if this behavior of the Norwegian government, as well as
>that of the United States and NATO, is not "extremist"."
>
>=============================
>
>
>Colman McCarthy: Among individuals, peace is the result of love. If
>love were easy, we'd all be good at it. Collectively, peace is the
>result of justice. And again, if justice were easy all nations would
>be good at it.
>Politicians who argue that peace comes through strength are referring
>to military strength – the strength of violence, from the violence of
>the nuclear bomb to the roadside bomb. If military strength were
>effective, the planet would have had peace eons ago. Yet against all
>historical evidence, we are repeatedly told, war after war, century
>after century, that this time violence will work.
>
>---------------------------------------
>-------------------------------
>
>"I have not come to create followers, each of you should continue to
>develop within your own religious tradition. Even when you see Me, do
>notrun after Me. If you run after me, you will lose Me. If you
>parade Me, you do not know who I am. I cannot be monopolized, I belong
>to everyone."
>
>---------------------------------
>
>"Infinity means, 'without end.' The infinity of God's consciousness
>goes not only outward, but inward to the very heart of the atom.
>He is as conscious of every human thought, of every feeling, as
>He is of the movements of vast galaxies in space."
>From The Essence of Self-Realization by Paramhansa Yogananda
>
>"They that deny a God destroy man's nobility;
>for certainly man is kin to the beasts by his body;
>and if he be not kin to God by his spirit,
>he is a base and ignoble creature."
>Francis Bacon
>
>------------------------------------------
>
>"There is nothing in your world, either alive or dead, that is worth
>being agitated about, except the alleviation of suffering." From: "The
>Boy & the Brothers"
>---------------
>
>There's lots of good material to be found at:
>http://www.agniyoga.org/
>The Agni Yoga teachings were given via mental telepathy through Helena
>Roerich (a disciple of the Master Morya), with the exception of the
>first book "The Call" (aka: Leaves of Morya's Garden, I) which was
>given by Maitreya.
>
>--------------------------------
>
>"Many await My Coming with trepidation, fearing the loss of all that
>they have amassed & gained. Fear not, My friends, for the loss will be
>the loss of separation only, of division & fear, of envy & hate. To
>clear these from the world, all must be remade. Know this, My
>friends, & be ready to share, to see your brother as yourself, to
>clasp him in your arms & call him friend. In this way, My brothers,
>you manifest God's Plan." Maitreya, the World Teacher
>http://www.share-international.org
>
>
>------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>Agni Yoga, 336. No name will provoke so many attacks as that of
>Maitreya, for it is bound up with the future. Nothing provokes so much
>fear and irritation in people as thinking about the future.
>
>---------------------------
>
>It seems that Maitreya, Jesus + some other Masters of Wisdom look for
>group activities that they can empower by pouring on Their blessings.
>This video "playing for change - music for peace" with the Bob Marley
>song "one Love" maybe one of those that recieved Their blessings .
>Check it out!
>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yuuMOvy1KNE
>
>
>-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>The future will see right relationships, true communion, a sharing of
>all things (wine, the blood, the life and bread, economic
>satisfaction) and goodwill; we have also a picture of the future of
>humanity when all nations are united in complete understanding and
>the diversity of languages - symbolic of differing traditions,
>cultures, civilizations and points of view - will provide no barrier
>to right human relations. At the center of each of these pictures is
>to be found the Christ. Thus the expressed aims and efforts of the
>United Nations will be eventually brought to fruition and a new
>church of God, gathered out of all religions and spiritual groups,
>will untidily bring to an end the great heresy of separateness. Love,
>unity, and the Risen Christ will be present, and He will demonstrate
>to us the perfect life." The Tibetan
>
>=================================
>The great moment for which He has so patiently waited has almost
>arrived; the "end of the age" to which He referred when speaking to
>His small group of disciples: "Lo! I am with you all the days even
>unto the end of the age" has come. Today He stands and waits, knowing
>that the hour has come when He will "see of the travail of His soul
>and be satisfied." (Is:LIII:11.) Alice Bailey
>
>------------
>
>"The cause of all sorrow and woes is desire -- desire for
>that which is material. ... 'No man liveth unto himself",
>and no nation either, and ...the goal of all human effort
>is loving understanding, prompted by a love for the whole."
>Djwhal Khul
> ---------------------
>
>"...The religious path, as seen by the Masters, is only one of many
>paths to the demonstration of our innate divinity. God does not
>reside in the religion, although the religion might help you to
>realize that divinity. Every aspect of life --politics, economics,
>religion, art, culture, science, education --can be lived in such a
>way that what we call God can be known and expressed.
>
>The divine becomes a moment-to-moment experience.
> That is in fact what it is. It is not a man with a
>beard sitting up in the sky watching that you are
>not stealing, lying, or cheating. It is inside you;
>it is your sense of the divine inside that gradually
>changes you from lying, cheating, and stealing to not
>doing these things. Not because somebody is telling you
>that it is bad, but because you instinctively know that
> that is not the right way to live with your fellow
>human beings.
>
>Whatever injures or harms another person is intuitively,
>instinctively, wrong. A change in behavior comes
>about by self-observation and self-determination.
>These things fall away as you become more aware of, and
>imbued with, the quality of the soul. That will happen
>on a wider and wider scale as humanity ceases to compete
>and learns to cooperate --in the family, in the community,
>nationally and internationally..." Benjamin Creme
>
>
>==============================
>
>"He shall proclaim the norm, lovely in its beginning,
>lovely in its middle, and lovely in the end thereof." Gautama Buddha
== 7 of 7 ==
Date: Thurs, Aug 18 2011 3:06 pm
From: Collier
YuleSee wrote:
>
>
> On Fri, 12 Aug 2011 13:42:53 -0500, q4l <q4l@nomail.com> wrote:
>>Everyone should get ready for some major, positive changes in the
>>world. The important thing to bear in mind is that the collapse of the
>>world's corrupt economic system is definitely a good thing. With each
>>passing day, it grows more obvious that it is time to build a new
>>world based upon the principles of justice, sustainability, and peace.
>
> agree wholeheartedly!
>
> The total collapse of the global economic system is something that we
> can all look forward to. I can hardly wait!
Stay away from that sinister Maitreya cult. They're like thieves in the night,
except they also attempt to rob people in broad daylight.
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TOPIC: jAP JI - Stanza 16
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.consciousness.mysticism/t/960f88da7f9b2129?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Thurs, Aug 18 2011 9:36 am
From: "MichaelTurnersfs@yahoo.com"
On Aug 15, 9:02 pm, "Lady Azure, Baroness of the North Pole"
<laddie'o'lugh@gall's.org> wrote:
> "MichaelTurner...@yahoo.com" wrote:
> > JAP JI – Stanza 16
>
> > The Saint is acceptable at His Court,
>
> > And is the Chief Elect therein;
>
> > The saint adorns the threshold of God
>
> > And is honored even by kings;
>
> > The saint lives by and meditates on the One Word.
>
> > Whoever discusses and expounds the mystery of His creation,
>
> > Realizes that the works of the Creator are beyond reckoning.
>
> > Dharma or Word born of His Grace
>
> > Is the proverbial bull that is harmoniously sustaining the creation,
>
> > Whosoever realizes this verily knows the Truth.
>
> > It is nothing but the Word that is carrying the crushing load of the
> > entire creation;
>
> > For were this earth upheld by a bull,
>
> > That in turn must be supported by some other planet
>
> > And that by another, and so on ad infinitum:
>
> > What a tremendous load!
>
> > What other power could support it?
>
> > None, but the Word.
>
> > There is no end to the creation;
>
> > There are countless forms of life
>
> > With varied names, species and colors;
>
> > Writ on the objective world
>
> > By the Everflowing Pen of the Creator.
>
> > Who can reckon His creation,
>
> > And if one could, how great would be the count?
>
> > How great is His Power,
>
> > And how beautiful His handiwork?
>
> > Who can count the measure of His sweet bounty?
>
> > With one Word of His, this vast creation blossomed into being;
>
> > And a thousand streams sprang forth into existence;
>
> > What power have I to conceive of thy wonderful nature?
>
> > Too poor am I to make an offering of my life to Thee;
>
> > Whatever pleases thee, is good.
>
> > Thou art forevermore; O Formless One!
>
> > (by Guru Nanak – from translation/interpretation by Sant Kirpal Singh)
>
> > **********************
>
> Yet few understand "FORMLESS", SHAPE SHIFTERS, are IMMORAL "RIGHT"??
> How Dare Eunuch Tribes, Exist in This "MANS WORLD"!
Ummm, what does your comment have to do with the Jap Ji and Guru
Nanak? Just wondering. Please try to reply in a coherent,
intelligible sentence. Thanks! :)
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TOPIC: judgment night
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.consciousness.mysticism/t/7334a3722fb91121?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Thurs, Aug 18 2011 8:26 pm
From: David Dalton
I wrote on alt.religion.druid :
> I earlier divined by perineum click divination that
> Sola (the sun) was accessing all on my writing that
> is available on the Internet, so my FTE and pendulum list
> writing, Usenet newsgroups writing, and web pages. That
> doesn't include other writing that I have done on paper
> and not yet transferred to the Internet, and doesn't
> include non-list e-mail. So anyway maybe I am being
> judged today.
I later divined that my other 10 main deities were
contacted as follows: Sola contacted Jesus, Gaia, Luna,
Human and Galacta; Galacta contacted Cosma; Cosma
contacted ALL; ALL contacted LOVE2; Luna contacted Samadhi
Someone and the one who turned the wind around (for those
last two I had to remember the experiences first).
And now I think a judging of me by my eleven main
deities is in progress and I don't know if it is
still restricted to my Internet writing.
If the last two paragraphs are true then the four
post-judged collaborative components are not on yet.
But mentally I feel pretty steady tonight.
--
David Dalton dalton@nfld.com http://www.nfld.com/~dalton (home page)
http://www.nfld.com/~dalton/nf.html Newfoundland&Labrador Travel & Music
http://www.nfld.com/~dalton/dtales.html Salmon on the Thorns (mystic page)
"Here I go again...back into the flame" (Sarah McLachlan)
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